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To: pjr12345
Yeah, you're right. There isn't anything in the new testament referencing Purgatory...

except Mt 5:48...

expect Heb 12:14

except Jam 3:2

except Rev 21:27

except 1 Jn 5:16,17

except Jam 1:14,15

except Mat 12:32

except MT 12:36

except 1 Cor 3:15

except 1 Pet 318-20

except 1 Peter 4:6

except 2 Tim 1:16-18

except 1 Cor 15:29,30

84 posted on 01/29/2007 12:15:11 PM PST by bornacatholic
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To: bornacatholic

which could as easily be speaking about hell plain and simple.


87 posted on 01/29/2007 12:16:45 PM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: bornacatholic; AlbionGirl; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; P-Marlowe

Mt 5:48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
-Which we can't be, it was proven over and over gain. That is why we needed the second Adam, to impute his righteousness to us,


Heb 12:14Make every effort to live in peace with all men and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord.
-see above

James 3:2We all stumble in many ways. If anyone is never at fault in what he says, he is a perfect man, able to keep his whole body in check.
-That's right, we all do stumble. There is one perfect man...

Revelation 21:27 Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life.
-That is 100% correct. But we have already seen that all have stumbled, and we know that it is written that all have fallen short. That is why we need the one who lived the life we can't live, and died for our sins so we don't have to.

Christ didn't die for the righteous, but for the sinner.


I could go on, but you get the point




91 posted on 01/29/2007 12:27:22 PM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: bornacatholic; Vicomte13

The only problem with your listing is that NONE of them refer to purgatory. One has to obtusely torture the Scripture to even come close to the idea (a task that Vicomte13 has affected rather well). The truth is, the closest you guys got to Scriptural support of Purgatory is a vague reference of Judas M. praying for the dead soldiers in a non-inspired book.

I certainly respect your right to believe in Purgatory... and praying to dead people... and turning a blessed woman into a goddess... and Santa Claus... and the Easter Bunny... and the Tooth Fairy...


128 posted on 01/29/2007 12:57:32 PM PST by pjr12345
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