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As a fairly typical so-called "Coninuity Catholic" -- sort of like saying "Come weal, or come woe, our status is in most cases, at least, most likely kinda quo" -- I've personally never had any real opinion one way or the other.

Recently, however, this begin to change when I was visiting relatives in a small country parish located deep in the South Texas brush, cattle, goat, and cactus country, not far from where John Wayne made "The Alamo."

The lady of the house pointed out that for many girls in such small out of the way places, training to become an altar server is the closest girls (as well as boys) can ever get to a Catholic Religious Education.

In this case, at least, the results were pretty impressive.

At Communion time every altar server, boy or girl, was ready with her (or his) long-handled wooden deal with a round thing at the end. I was impressed, as I hadn't seen them used in years, outside traditional Latin Masses.

"So, what say? Yea or Nay? Do we keep on with altar girls in the future? Or do we throw the baby out with the bath water?"

Thanks!

Dennis

1 posted on 01/13/2007 10:09:54 AM PST by Dennis Paul Morony
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To: Dennis Paul Morony

Starting girl altar boys was dumb.
Stopping them abrubtly would be even dumber.


2 posted on 01/13/2007 11:04:10 AM PST by rogator
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To: Dennis Paul Morony

I think it was a bad idea from the beginning. That said, I have heard of one pastor who uses it to "recruit" girls for the religious life. The boy and girl altar servers have separate retreats and events, and the girls are encouraged to think about becoming nuns or sisters, while the boys are encouraged to think about the priesthood.

That said, I don't think they can be stopped until the real bane of everybody's existence, the hebes (cupbearers, that is, the little old ladies who "distribute" Communion every three feet down the aisle of the church) are done away with. There's no need for them.

Interestingly, it sounds in the case of your church as if they must give Communion the old style.


3 posted on 01/13/2007 11:18:53 AM PST by livius
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To: Dennis Paul Morony
Let us all be honest here. Altar girls were introduced as a way to promote the ordination women. They both flow from a feminist ideology which rejects God's order of the creation of man as male a female, seeking to reduce us to an unholy androgyny. Altar boys are semi-clerical assistants to the priest, not representatives of the community. There is no need for altar girls whose presence only helps to create confusion in the legitimate distinction of sex roles. Get rid of them.
4 posted on 01/13/2007 12:11:13 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Dennis Paul Morony
At my old parish in NY we had alter girls. I must say that in the 3 years I was watching they were much more diligent in their duties than the alter boys.

I do not know if any vocations were realized in the alter girls, however I do know that Fr. Carl said he never wanted to give them up. I know it is a very unpopular view here, however I say keep the alter girls.
7 posted on 01/13/2007 12:37:48 PM PST by Talking_Mouse (wahhabi delenda est)
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To: Dennis Paul Morony

Allowing of altar girls was THE WORST mistake of Pope John Paul II papacy, and no amount of sugar coating in my eyes can justify such a rupture of tradition.

The girls at the parish you mentioned have plenty of other chances to gain a religous education rather than pushing boys off the altar. Thorw the baby out with the bathwater? Sorry, the whole mess is pure poison.


9 posted on 01/13/2007 1:17:08 PM PST by RFT1
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To: Dennis Paul Morony

That's a patten.


11 posted on 01/13/2007 1:22:47 PM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: Dennis Paul Morony

I have two little girls and I have absolutely no problem telling them that serving on the altar is a boy's job. Not that they couldn't do the actual physical tasks, and in many cases do them better, but it is a step in discerning a vocation to the priesthood.

My three year old already knows all the altar terms and how they are used (thank you catechism of the Good Shepard). She isn't going to miss out by not being up there on the altar performing. And she's smart enough to know that at an early age.


12 posted on 01/13/2007 1:35:07 PM PST by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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To: Dennis Paul Morony

Bad idea...even in Bracketville.


14 posted on 01/13/2007 1:47:53 PM PST by AlaninSA ("Beware the fury of a patient man." - John Dryden)
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To: Dennis Paul Morony

"At Communion time every altar server, boy or girl, was ready with her (or his) long-handled wooden deal with a round thing at the end. I was impressed, as I hadn't seen them used in years, outside traditional Latin Masses"




That's a paten...you find them in Catholic churches...


15 posted on 01/13/2007 1:49:15 PM PST by AlaninSA ("Beware the fury of a patient man." - John Dryden)
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To: Dennis Paul Morony
There has been attrition in my church the past year. There are 4 to 2 boys and many times all boys compared to an even amount of girls to boys in the past.

The Church has tried to be PC even to the extent of not obeying the precepts or the GIRM.

There has been other changes such as the cleaning of the sacred vessels and non ceramic chalices being used.

One thing that is still a problem is the lack of attention and the lack of proper behavior in the sacristy.
20 posted on 01/13/2007 4:37:48 PM PST by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
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Why not? Are they priests?


25 posted on 01/14/2007 3:56:42 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Dennis Paul Morony
Should the American Catholic Church Continue with Altar Girls, Yea or Nay?

There is no such thing as the "American Catholic Church". And, no.

The lady of the house pointed out that for many girls in such small out of the way places, training to become an altar server is the closest girls (as well as boys) can ever get to a Catholic Religious Education.

What, they have no parents?

26 posted on 01/14/2007 4:43:20 AM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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Female altar servers should be continued, and I say that as a former altar boy.


30 posted on 01/14/2007 12:11:53 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Dennis Paul Morony

Opposed suh, unalterably opposed.

(From "Advise and Consent" for the multitude of you too young to remember).


32 posted on 01/14/2007 12:22:52 PM PST by Theophane (Adveniat Regnum Tuum)
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Should the American Catholic Church Continue with Altar Girls, Yea or Nay?


Of course!


43 posted on 01/14/2007 6:00:08 PM PST by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006)
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