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To: brwnsuga
There is no scripture saying that Mother Mary remained a virgin for the rest of her days. And if she slept with her husband Joseph after she gave birth to Jesus, it doesn't diminish her in any way

But, you see, Mary did what we can't do – love God with all her heart and mind and soul. There was no other devotion in her life, but God.

656 posted on 12/07/2006 5:26:50 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; brwnsuga
Re: There is no scripture saying that Mother Mary remained a virgin for the rest of her days. And if she slept with her husband Joseph after she gave birth to Jesus, it doesn't diminish her in any way.

" But, you see, Mary did what we can't do – love God with all her heart and mind and soul. There was no other devotion in her life, but God."

If no one is capable of obeying the commandment, then why did God give it? Matt 22:36-38
"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'[Deut. 6:5] This is the first and greatest commandment.

There's no scriptural reference for, "no other devotion in her life", so that's irrelevant. Loving a spouse does not detract from loving God anymore than loving one's neighbor detracts from it.

664 posted on 12/07/2006 5:59:20 PM PST by spunkets
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To: kosta50
But, you see, Mary did what we can't do – love God with all her heart and mind and soul. There was no other devotion in her life, but God.

Because, you see, Mary was a super-human goddess, who had no need to offer marital love to Joseph, or to love God by properly loving the man God had put in her life. She could please God by defrauding her husband, you see, since, like Nietzche's "superman," she was "above" the mundane obligations binding upon mere humans. Therefore, since she was a superhuman goddess then, we can appropriately worship her, and pray to her, today.

742 posted on 12/08/2006 5:47:11 AM PST by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: kosta50

But, you see, Mary did what we can't do – love God with all her heart and mind and soul. There was no other devotion in her life, but God.

No doubt that Mary loved G-d will all her heart, mind and soul. But everything else you said is speculation. It IS possible to love G-d with your heart, mind and soul AND have beautiful G-d santioned sex with your spouse. I'm like this....... if it can't be found in scripture, I'm not going to put my faith in it. What about this scripture?

Mathew 13:55-56 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?

Why would Jesus be called Mary and Joseph's FIRSTBORN son? I see those in the scripture so, more than likely, Mary went on to do what married women do, that is to procreate with her husband. That doesn't make her sinful, it makes her normal but still highly favored of G-d.


919 posted on 12/09/2006 8:39:46 AM PST by brwnsuga
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