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To: wmfights

Man has always sought to

—Bring God down to his level. Christ did—his initiative—His way—His standards—His requirements therefrom. Doesn’t work when we glom onto Christianity our human compulsions to bring God down to our level—whether it’s our “MOMMY LEVEL” or any other sort.

—Make God over in our image.

—Idolize the familiar. What could be more familiar than MOMMY?

—Deal with God askew from what He asks, demands. GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICES; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; GOD ALONE IS DUE ADORATION, VENERATION, WORSHIP.

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I beleive that there are earnest RC’s who don’t get into worshipping Mary. I blieve there are many who have gotten caught up in it because of all the institutional hoopla. Those responsible will likely bear a stiff cost.

I believe that there are som who brazenly worship Mary and fiercely believe it to be right because they’ve gotten that drift from the Insitution. God have mercy on them.


12,536 posted on 04/13/2007 9:45:57 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: Quix
I believe that there are som who brazenly worship Mary and fiercely believe it to be right because they’ve gotten that drift from the Insitution. God have mercy on them.

It seems to be a moving target. Each generation, or century rolls by, and the worship expands and her role grows. Thus, the people who throw themselves on the floor prostrate to "venerate" Mary at EO services (yet this isn't done for JESUS) don't think anything of it. I think these people fall into this behavior because it is becoming common place. They probably are very desirous of a close personal relationship with GOD, but have been misled to believe they have to go through her.

I think your psychological analysis is probably right on target.

12,541 posted on 04/13/2007 10:00:48 AM PDT by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: Quix
I believe that there are som who brazenly worship Mary and fiercely believe it to be right because they’ve gotten that drift from the Insitution. God have mercy on them.

Q,

Can you point me to one line in the Catholic Catechism that says anything close to what you state? Now, can someone misteach what the Church teaches? Of course. Priests and nuns are not perfect, nor are RCIA teachers or Sunday school teachers. They have been known to be wrong. But the official stance of the Church does not include any such "worship" of Mary. Let me know when you can give me any official stance that says otherwise. Until then, you are dealing with personal devotions or mistaken ideas.

Regards

12,552 posted on 04/13/2007 10:22:27 AM PDT by jo kus (Humility is present when one debases oneself without being obliged to do so- St.Chrysostom; Phil 2:8)
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