[wmfights]

I believe that there are som who brazenly worship Mary and fiercely believe it to be right because they’ve gotten that drift from the Insitution. God have mercy on them.

It seems to be a moving target. Each generation, or century rolls by, and the worship expands and her role grows. Thus, the people who throw themselves on the floor prostrate to "venerate" Mary at EO services (yet this isn't done for JESUS) don't think anything of it. I think these people fall into this behavior because it is becoming common place. They probably are very desirous of a close personal relationship with GOD, but have been misled to believe they have to go through her.

I think your psychological analysis is probably right on target.

[kawaii]

nobody throws themselves on the floor to prostrate mary in any liturgies at orthodox parishes.

protestantism is the 20,000 mixed messages moving target. Orthodox doctrine doesn’t change. it’s not a moving target.

[kawaii]

Protestantism should co-market with Holiday in;

Protestants aren’t Popes, they don’t have degrees in theology, but each and every one of them DID stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night...