Seven Basic Bible Facts Every Christian Should Know and Believe

http://www.bereanbiblesociety.org/articles/1017954587.html ^ | Robert C. Brock

[jkl1122]

So many errors, so little time.

[bremenboy]

That the DISTINCTIVENESS of Pauline truth is a most important doctrine of the Bible.

Mar 4:10 And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable. Mar 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

Eph 3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) Eph 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

what DISTINCTIVENESS ?

[aruanan]

The Apostle Paul was not sent to baptize with water: "For Christ sent me NOT TO BAPTIZE but to preach the gospel..." (I Cor. 1:17). Only a change in God's purpose would necessitate a statement like this. There is no importance attached to water baptism, today. It is not a part of Christianity and only causes confusion.

This is specious reasoning, especially considering that Paul did baptize some believers. In the above statement, though, he was emphasizing his role as someone who got people to the point of being baptized. Just one example should suffice to prove this guy's rule wrong:

29The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas. 30He then brought them out and asked, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"

31They replied, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household." 32Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all the others in his house. 33At that hour of the night the jailer took them and washed their wounds; then immediately he and all his family were baptized. 34The jailer brought them into his house and set a meal before them; he was filled with joy because he had come to believe in God—he and his whole family.
Acts 16

[bremenboy]

1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

this is water Baptizim

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

[Oberon]

I don't trust any exegesis that features words in all-caps.

[jkl1122]

While that does lead me to view this suspiciously, what really bothers me is plain old twisting of Scripture.

[Larry Lucido]

FACT NO. 8: You should use CAPITALS a lot when QUOTING Scripture. COLORED font is also RECOMMENDED.

[Larry Lucido]

ALLCAP LOL!

[Mr. Jeeves]

Evidently, the word "fact" has been redefined to mean "theological hypothesis". ;)

[Oberon]

It's been my experience that twisting of scripture isn't always accompanied by all-cap text, all-cap text is almost always a sign that twisted scripture is somewhere nearby.

[Oberon]

It's been my experience that twisting of scripture isn't always accompanied by all-cap text, all-cap text is almost always a sign that twisted scripture is somewhere nearby.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Already those who cannot see the distinction between the "Gospel of Circumcision" and the "Gospel of Uncircumcision" are crawling out of the woodwork to attack you.

But that is what we have to deal with here on FR.

[jkl1122]

No one is looking to attack the person, at least not those I have seen so far. If there are two gospels, as you are claiming, then God is the author of confusion, since the Apostles clearly state that God is no respecter of persons regarding salvation.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Well, here it is.


Gal 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as [the gospel] of the circumcision [was] unto Peter;


Gal 2:8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)


Gal 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we [should go] unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.


And lets not forget that James and the Jerusalem church were still offering sacrifices in the temple and requiring circumcision when Paul made his last trip there.

James himself talked Paul into going to the temple to offr sacrifices for men with vows on their heads.

[A.J.Armitage]

The Apostle Paul was not sent to baptize with water: "For Christ sent me NOT TO BAPTIZE but to preach the gospel..." (I Cor. 1:17).

So did you just miss verses 14-16?

I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, so that no one may say that you were baptized in my name. (I did baptize also the household of Stephanas. Beyond that, I do not know whether I baptized anyone else.)

[jkl1122]

There is no indication that the entire Jerusalem church was offering sacrifices in the temple or requiring circumcision. There were some who were pushing these things, but it was not all of the church in Jerusalem.

Also, Paul does not say there are two gospels here in Galatians. He is saying that taking the Gospel to the uncircumcised was committed to him, and that taking the Gospel to the circumcised was committed to Peter.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***There is no indication that the entire Jerusalem church was offering sacrifices in the temple or requiring circumcision.***

Act 21:18 And the [day] following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present.
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Act 21:20 And when they heard [it], they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:


Act 21:21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise [their] children, neither to walk after the customs.


Act 21:22 What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come.


Act 21:23 Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them;


Act 21:24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave [their] heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but [that] thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.


Act 21:25 As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written [and] concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from [things] offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.

So, who gave these orders? James and the elders of the Jerusalem church.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***COLORED font is also RECOMMENDED.***

It works but then you have to deal with all that HTML crap or it all runs together. Caps are easier for me.

[LiteKeeper]

Well, that was interesting...and WRONG!