Posted on 11/27/2006 3:45:02 PM PST by Joseph DeMaistre
There's no such thing as a Liberal "Catholic," only a Liberal who doesn't have the courage to admit their not Catholic.
Maybe, we can start cleaning house and re-Catholicizing the Catholic faithful after 40 years of bad catechisis, exemplified by pseudo-Catholics like Mr. Cocozelli.
Would that all our American dioceses could have such bishops.
I'm here in the Eparchy of Passaic, and our bishop is a closet homo by all accounts, not to mention that he has defied Canon Law to stay in office past his 75th B'day. His clergy hates him because he's not orthodox.
Have you read about how Catholics voted as a group in the last two elections?
I hope everyone here had a good Feast of Christ the Committee Chairman.
It's called the poor education of the Catholic faithful. Liberal Catholics are de facto excommunicated under Catholic Canon Law because they believe in the heresies of abortion, homosexuality, etc.
Saying you're a Catholic and being one are two different things.
Alex, considering you're not a Catholic, I don't expect you to understand.
The article would obtain a little more credibility if the author showed actual familiar with things Catholic.
In that Kansas City - St. Joseph is a diocese and not an archdiocese, the proper title for its ordinary is Bishop Finn, not Archbishop Finn.
It's surprising, as well, that anyone would complain when a Christian clergyman of any denomination would say of his flock that they are first and foremost subjects of "a kingdom." LOL. Yeah, the Kingdom of God. This guy Jesus told us about it.
* chuckle *
"As Dennis Coday reported in the National Catholic Reporter, A Respect Life Office was established to handle pro-life issues and battle stem-cell research."
Oh my! The scandal of it! A Catholic bishop who believes in the Catholic Church's teaching concerning life issues, and who ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING ABOUT IT IN HIS DIOCESE!! The horror. The horror.
What will he do next?? Encourage people to PRAY THE ROSARY???
"To that end, he has ordered the editor of the diocesan newspaper to immediately cease publishing columns by the progressive Notre Dame theologian Fr. Richard McBrien."
That's just terrible! Banning a heretic from conveying his heresies in the local Catholic newspaper (Maybe the local MSM paper might want to pick the column up? No??)!!
And it really would be nice if the author could refer to his target here as Bishop Finn.
Boy, if that's not a false dichomomy I've never seen one! Excactly what is this "democracy" that he names? Democracy in our country is equality under the law and the choosing of representives by the electorate. But the "law" must be judged on its merits and not blindly accepted as some overarching good. This is especially true since it is the domain of an elite who try to twist it to their purposes and do not hesitate to defame the words of Christ and his church.
Bishop Finn sounds great! God bless him and send us more like him.
Why should he give McBrien a forum? I doubt that McBrien would invite him to speak to his classes at Notre Dame? IAC, McBrien is a lightweight. I once saw him on the same split screen with Father Neuhaus. McBrien was literally shaking as Neuhaus punctured all his assertions --I won't dignify what he said as argument. What a phoney.
Dear RobbyS,
"Why should he give McBrien a forum?"
Because heretics have feelings too??
LOL!
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At that time, when Jesus was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God was coming, he answered them, "The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; nor will they say, 'Lo, here it is!' or 'There!' for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you."Ominous indeed.
Our bishop gave a very good homily on this yesterday. In the course of it, he reminded us that every time you write a check, you acknowledge the Kingship of Christ - that is, a check has to be dated, and you are dating it from the start of the reign of Christ the King, just as the Romans used to date their events from the years of the beginning of the term or reign of their various rulers.
He said he absolutely refuses to use CE and BCE (Common Era and Before Common Era, the PC way of dealing with BC and AD).
Unfortunately for this author, he is either a liar or too lazy fo check his facts. In a long interview, Bishop Finn specifically stated that he was not a member of Opus Dei but was a cooperator -
Those who wish to help Opus Dei without being members may become Cooperators. The cooperators of Opus Dei are men and women Catholics and non-Catholics who are not incorporated into the Opus Dei Prelature, but who collaborate with the faithful of the Prelature in the various educational, charitable and cultural activities.
http://www.opusdei.org.uk/art.php?p=10879
Bishop Finn made it clear that he does not wear a surplice or go in for any discipline type activities. To say he is a member is not right.
It's cilice (pronounced "sillus"). A surplice is the lace overgarment often worn by altar boys or choir members over a cassock, and inflicts no pain whatsoever (or so I've been told).
I think he would join if he weren't a Bishop though.
catholicfundamentalism.com puts forward the view that God has the ability to program in three dimensions, and that He programmed everything in less than a week. Fundies don't like it, because it teaches that The Church is supreme, and modern Catholics don't like it because it teaches that The Church is, well, The Church.
He sounds like a good one, from everything I've heard. Deo gratias!
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Cocozelli nauseates me. He is a master of spin. I think I am going to forward Finn a copy of my diocese' newsletter and let him go at it. ;)
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