[Joseph DeMaistre]

Oh, the horror of a Catholic bishop requiring his flock to be Catholics.

There's no such thing as a Liberal "Catholic," only a Liberal who doesn't have the courage to admit their not Catholic.

Maybe, we can start cleaning house and re-Catholicizing the Catholic faithful after 40 years of bad catechisis, exemplified by pseudo-Catholics like Mr. Cocozelli.

[ThanhPhero]

Would that all our American dioceses could have such bishops.

[Alex Murphy]

There's no such thing as a Liberal "Catholic," only a Liberal who doesn't have the courage to admit their not Catholic.

Have you read about how Catholics voted as a group in the last two elections?

[Campion]

More ominously, he sees his flock not as much as living as citizens in America democracy, but as part of "a kingdom."

I hope everyone here had a good Feast of Christ the Committee Chairman.

[sitetest]

The article would obtain a little more credibility if the author showed actual familiar with things Catholic.

In that Kansas City - St. Joseph is a diocese and not an archdiocese, the proper title for its ordinary is Bishop Finn, not Archbishop Finn.

It's surprising, as well, that anyone would complain when a Christian clergyman of any denomination would say of his flock that they are first and foremost subjects of "a kingdom." LOL. Yeah, the Kingdom of God. This guy Jesus told us about it.

* chuckle *

"As Dennis Coday reported in the National Catholic Reporter, A Respect Life Office was established to handle pro-life issues and battle stem-cell research."

Oh my! The scandal of it! A Catholic bishop who believes in the Catholic Church's teaching concerning life issues, and who ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING ABOUT IT IN HIS DIOCESE!! The horror. The horror.

What will he do next?? Encourage people to PRAY THE ROSARY???

"To that end, he has ordered the editor of the diocesan newspaper to immediately cease publishing columns by the progressive Notre Dame theologian Fr. Richard McBrien."

That's just terrible! Banning a heretic from conveying his heresies in the local Catholic newspaper (Maybe the local MSM paper might want to pick the column up? No??)!!

And it really would be nice if the author could refer to his target here as Bishop Finn.

[RobbyS]

Unfortunately, the archbishop does not seem to accept that most American Catholics believe that in this life democracy rules and that the kingdom is for the next.

Boy, if that's not a false dichomomy I've never seen one! Excactly what is this "democracy" that he names? Democracy in our country is equality under the law and the choosing of representives by the electorate. But the "law" must be judged on its merits and not blindly accepted as some overarching good. This is especially true since it is the domain of an elite who try to twist it to their purposes and do not hesitate to defame the words of Christ and his church.

[Nihil Obstat]

Bishop Finn sounds great! God bless him and send us more like him.

[madprof98]

Typical of many politically active Opus Dei members he falsely miscasts the value pluralist aspects so fundamental to American democracy society as "nihilism" and "moral relativism." More ominously, he sees his flock not as much as living as citizens in America democracy, but as part of "a kingdom."

At that time, when Jesus was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God was coming, he answered them, "The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; nor will they say, 'Lo, here it is!' or 'There!' for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you."

Ominous indeed.

[x_plus_one]

On May 24, 2005, just one month after becoming a member of Opus Dei, Robert Finn

Unfortunately for this author, he is either a liar or too lazy fo check his facts. In a long interview, Bishop Finn specifically stated that he was not a member of Opus Dei but was a cooperator -

Those who wish to help Opus Dei without being members may become Cooperators. The cooperators of Opus Dei are men and women – Catholics and non-Catholics – who are not incorporated into the Opus Dei Prelature, but who collaborate with the faithful of the Prelature in the various educational, charitable and cultural activities.

http://www.opusdei.org.uk/art.php?p=10879

Bishop Finn made it clear that he does not wear a surplice or go in for any discipline type activities. To say he is a member is not right.

[narses]

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[sageb1]

Cocozelli nauseates me. He is a master of spin. I think I am going to forward Finn a copy of my diocese' newsletter and let him go at it. ;)

[Cicero]

Sounds good to me. This is just about the most ridiculous piece of tripe I have ever read.

he falsely miscasts the value pluralist aspects so fundamental to American democracy society as "nihilism" and "moral relativism." More ominously, he sees his flock not as much as living as citizens in America democracy, but as part of "a kingdom."

The Kingdom of Heaven, maybe? Sorry, but when the Son of Man comes to Judgment sitting on the clouds of glory, you don't get to vote on it.

[nickcarraway]

How can we advocate for distributive justice in a pluralistic society? We can't impose our values on people who hate the poor and take away their right to exploit the poor for financial gain in a pluralistic society? We can't support government welfare, in a pluralistic society, when there are others who seek the truth without coercion. Pluralistic society. Pluralistic society.

[marshmallow]

This is news??

[Maeve]

Dear Bishop Finn may be the one of the great saints of these days keeping Missouri from burning under the wrath of God. And I mean, burning.

[PAR35]

After he cleans up things there, perhaps he should be moved to Los Angeles.

[redgolum]

Haven't read all of these articles, but the read like the "Evangelical theocrats" fear mongering that is common here and elsewhere.

They are trying to turn the Catholic Church against itself much like the way they turned many against the evangelicals.

[KC_Conspirator]

A diocese that includes 130,000 Catholics residing in 27 countries of northwest Missouri, KC-St. Joe has long been known as a bastion of Catholic progressiveness.

Uh no. If he means Catholic liberalism, then he is definately wrong. The midwest Catholic church is however more independent from politics, unlike in many places in the northeast like Boston.