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To: P-Marlowe; drstevej; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; jboot; ...

ONE OF THE STUDIES TO COME OUT OF SADDLEBACK WAS "CELEBRATE RECOVERY".

I WAS ASKED TO TEACH THE SEGMENT WITH "NO" BIBLES ALLOWED!

P.M.,PLEASE DO NOT SUPPORT R.W.,YOU ARE MUCH SMARTER THEN THAT.

7 SOLAS!


29 posted on 11/27/2006 11:04:36 AM PST by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: alpha-8-25-02
I WAS ASKED TO TEACH THE SEGMENT WITH "NO" BIBLES ALLOWED!

That just Boggles the Mind!

Clouds they are, Without Water, Carried About of Winds; Trees whose Fruit Withereth; Without Fruit. (Jd.1:12)

36 posted on 11/27/2006 12:46:13 PM PST by Kitty Mittens (To God Be All Excellent Praise!)
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To: alpha-8-25-02
P.M.,PLEASE DO NOT SUPPORT R.W.,YOU ARE MUCH SMARTER THEN THAT.

I don't "support" Rick Warren. Quite frankly I think he is an idiot. But I don't believe he is worthy of a ping list. He has jumped the shark and is engaged in some very questionable political causes and religious traditions.

I think he gets too much attention. I also think that he has become a boogeyman of sorts among many here at Free Republic. He wrote a book. He started a fad. The book will burn and the fad will fade. The mission of the Church will be undaunted and Christ will be glorified regardless of what Rick Warren does.

Please, don't start a ping list.

38 posted on 11/27/2006 12:50:09 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: alpha-8-25-02
Did they put it in writing for you to teach at saddleback with no bible's allowed?

I have a hard time believing that..


Not that I don't believe you Alpha; but No bibles in a Recovery class?

What was it a Recovery from? Christianity?
43 posted on 11/27/2006 1:51:42 PM PST by Rightly Biased (Courage is not the lack of fear it is acting in spite of it<><)
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To: alpha-8-25-02; Kitty Mittens
...WITH "NO" BIBLES ALLOWED!

Just before I had my name removed from the membership role at the Southern Baptist church I was the monthly volunteer for cleaning. I was stunned to see how many bibles had been moved out of the sanctuary, moved to boxes and low shelves out of sight, and how much of what used to hang on the walls of the Word and the Gospel had been taken down and literally turned over. This spirit to remove the Bible and the Word even from the churches is prevalent everywhere in this day. We do not battle flesh and blood.

"On Christ the Solid Rock I stand: all other ground is sinking sand."

Jesus told us ahead of time, and confirmed the saying through Paul:
"Savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock."

Satan is no dummy. His greatest craftiness is to preach his messages from 'Christian' pulpits, through 'Christian' churches, and to disguise himself as an angel of LIGHT. Those who are more attached in their most sacred love to the social church and the praise of men, to these shallow comforters, rather than to the Body of Christ which is the Word and Spirit, will be taken captive through deceit, not willing to be led captive in the train of the Victor Through Death. The power of deception is that it appears true - yet it is always the shallow way to comfort, glossy, and by this we may recognize it: it does not comport with the Way of God, the cross of Christ our Head, despised and rejected by men, betrayed with a kiss, murdered by brethren outside the camp. Love crucified in full daylight, naked and unashamed in agony for men, is the Truth. How frequent are its imitations.

There is a great winnowing happening before our eyes, and chaff is blowing in the wind: a dust storm clouding the sun. The winnowing fork and wind lift up the whole heap, but the grain, being full of weight, falls back to the threshing floor, the Foundation, while the chaff, having no seed, blows about - it will escape the lash only to be caught in the fire. It seems right to note that this work is the last that happens in the harvest process, just before the wheat is gathered into the barns.

58 posted on 11/28/2006 3:18:48 AM PST by .30Carbine
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