[adiaireton8]

I do not understand why Fr. Hardon ties Calvin to Pelagianism. Does he mean that Calvin goes to the opposite extreme? Calvin strongly opposed Pelagianism.

And how exactly, does Fr. Hardon think Calvin is guilty of Manicheanism? Thanks.

-A8

[stfassisi]

Calvin was a spin master Read this again... Calvin in his genius managed to combine those two that seem to be contrary, not to say contradictory heresies. For John Calvin, many you might say are Luther’s ideas, for John Calvin in the last analysis who will be saved – those whom God has predestined for salvation. Would anybody else be saved? No. And therefore, basic to John Calvin, is the absolute denial of man’s free will. Now ironically, Calvin writes for pages and pages in his summa, the entries of the Christian religion about the human will. John Calvin is the genius who created the modern world with it’s denial of human freedom

I,m sorry I have not participated more in this thread,I,m on my way to my daughters swim championships and will be back on Sunday.