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To: adiaireton8
Calvin was a spin master Read this again... Calvin in his genius managed to combine those two that seem to be contrary, not to say contradictory heresies. For John Calvin, many you might say are Luther’s ideas, for John Calvin in the last analysis who will be saved – those whom God has predestined for salvation. Would anybody else be saved? No. And therefore, basic to John Calvin, is the absolute denial of man’s free will. Now ironically, Calvin writes for pages and pages in his summa, the entries of the Christian religion about the human will. John Calvin is the genius who created the modern world with it’s denial of human freedom

I,m sorry I have not participated more in this thread,I,m on my way to my daughters swim championships and will be back on Sunday.

47 posted on 11/15/2006 6:04:04 PM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: stfassisi
I read it, but I don't see how the denial of free will is Pelagian or Manichean.

-A8

48 posted on 11/15/2006 6:38:20 PM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: stfassisi

Seriously, this whole article is pure garbage. I've not seen such an intellectually dishonest, academically bereft polemic in a long time. If one is going to speak so strongly against something they ought to at least be able to accurately describe it.


49 posted on 11/15/2006 7:08:33 PM PST by Frumanchu (Historical Revisionism: When you're tired of being on the losing side of history.)
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