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To: kerryusama04
My point is that the Apostles did not have control over who received the Holy Spirit. Neither does Rome.

'Control' is an ambiguous term. You are correct that God can act apart from the Apostles. God is not limited. The Apostles and the Catholic Church have always taught this. But, God has appointed certain means through which to build His Church. Even in the passage to which you referred (Acts 10), the Holy Spirit came on the people as Peter was preaching to them. The very words of Peter (as he preached the Gospel) were in this case sacramental. Why doesn't Philip baptize the Samarians in the Holy Spirit (in Acts 8)? Why must the Church send Peter and John? (Acts 8:14) Philip was not an Apostle; he was a deacon. (Acts 6)

The same is true today. Yes, God could send His Holy Spirit to someone. But the appointed means is through the bishops in succession from the Apostles.

-A8

386 posted on 10/22/2006 4:08:39 PM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: adiaireton8
What about the other stuff I said?

The same is true today. Yes, God could send His Holy Spirit to someone. But the appointed means is through the bishops in succession from the Apostles.

These being the same bishops who hide the sins of their priests? These being the same bishops who advocate breaking civil law in direct violation of scripture? I, sir, am not willing to delegate my salvation to fallible men. I prefer to take the writing of Paul to heart and take responsibility for my own salvation, to believe on the Lord, to confess my sins to Him, the only Mediator between God and men, to study the Word, and be prepared to testify whenever the case arises.

414 posted on 10/22/2006 4:26:01 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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