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To: kerryusama04
The standard set out by the Bible ... is the Law, not the church.

Yes, we have to follow our conscience regarding the moral law. But the laity have no authority with respect to ecclesial or canon law.

When your church violates the Law, what course to you have to affect change?

Are you referring to moral law or ecclesial law?

What exactly can Catholic laity do to affect the excommunication of a member of the clergy?

Pray for the excommunicated person and attempt to persuade them to seek reconciliation with the Church.

-A8

1,314 posted on 10/25/2006 8:13:45 AM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: adiaireton8
Yes, we have to follow our conscience regarding the moral law. But the laity have no authority with respect to ecclesial or canon law.

There is only one Law of God.

Pray for the excommunicated person and attempt to persuade them to seek reconciliation with the Church.

Why can't you do what the Bible says?

1Ti 5:19 Do not receive an accusation against an elder except on the basis of two or three witnesses.

What do you think of the verses where Jesus admonishes the hierarchal and untouchable church of his time?

Here is another illustration of the folly of the doctrines of men set up by the church:

Mat 21:23 When He entered the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people came to Him while He was teaching, and said, "By what authority are You doing these things, and who gave You this authority?" Mat 21:24 Jesus said to them, "I will also ask you one thing, which if you tell Me, I will also tell you by what authority I do these things. Mat 21:25 "The baptism of John was from what source, from heaven or from men?" And they began reasoning among themselves, saying, "If we say, 'From heaven,' He will say to us, 'Then why did you not believe him?' Mat 21:26 "But if we say, 'From men,' we fear the people; for they all regard John as a prophet." Mat 21:27 And answering Jesus, they said, "We do not know." He also said to them, "Neither will I tell you by what authority I do these things.

1,323 posted on 10/25/2006 8:36:36 AM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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To: adiaireton8

Yes, we have to follow our conscience regarding the moral law. But the laity have no authority with respect to ecclesial or canon law.
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Quite a convenient slight of hand the enemy has foisted upon Precious Roman believers to neutralize Holy Spirit within them and their priesthood of believers status IN HIM under Christ and CHRIST ALONE.


1,335 posted on 10/25/2006 9:08:13 AM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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