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(Episcopal)Gay priest not picked as N.J. bishop
Houston Chronicle, AP ^ | September 23, 2006 | Chris Newmarker

Posted on 09/23/2006 12:48:56 PM PDT by Dane

Gay priest not picked as N.J. bishop

By CHRIS NEWMARKER Associated Press Writer © 2006 The Associated Press

NEWARK, N.J. — Avoiding further controversy in the worldwide Anglican family, the Episcopal Diocese of Newark on Saturday chose a Massachusetts priest as their new bishop, rather than an openly gay candidate on the ballot.

The Rev. Mark Beckwith won on the third ballot, taking 253, or about 53 percent of the 477 ballots cast by clergy and lay representatives. Click to learn more...

Canon Michael Barlowe, 51, an openly gay priest from California, only had one vote from a lay person in the final round. Even in the first round, he only had 40 votes, 16 from clergy and 24 from lay people.

The Rev. Elizabeth Kaeton, an openly gay priest at St. Paul's Church in Chatham, felt Beckwith was the best choice to lead the diocese, but thought the global Anglican community's pressure on the American church to avoid more gay bishops was an "elephant in the room."

She thought it sad that "someone of the caliber of Michael Barlowe had such a poor showing."

Barlowe is currently an officer for congregational development for the Diocese of California in San Francisco.

The election in the historically liberal diocese came at a time when divisions over the Bible and sexuality are threatening the denomination and the worldwide Anglican family.

A win by Barlowe would put the diocese at the center of a crisis over whether Anglicans who disagree about ordaining gays can stay in the same fellowship.

The feud erupted in the Anglican community in 2003, after the Episcopal Church consecrated its first openly gay bishop, V. Gene Robinson of New Hampshire.

In June, the Episcopal General Convention, the church's top policy-making body, voted to ask U.S. bishops to "exercise restraint by not consenting to the consecration" of candidates "whose manner of life presents a challenge to the wider church." However, the measure is not binding.

Beckwith, of Worcester, Mass., had previously served in the Newark diocese in Morristown and Hackensack. He must still be approved nationally by diocesan standing committees, which are panels of local lay people and clergy similar to a board of directors, and a majority of the more than 100 Episcopal bishops who lead U.S. dioceses.

If approved, Beckwith will replace Bishop John Palmer Croneberger, who is resigning to spend more time with his ill wife, diocese spokeswoman Rev. Sandye Wilson said.

The Episcopal Church is the U.S. representative of the global Anglican Communion.


TOPICS: Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: ecusa; homosexualagaenda; homosexualagenda; newjersey
The Rev. Elizabeth Kaeton, an openly gay priest at St. Paul's Church in Chatham, felt Beckwith was the best choice to lead the diocese, but thought the global Anglican community's pressure on the American church to avoid more gay bishops was an "elephant in the room."

She thought it sad that "someone of the caliber of Michael Barlowe had such a poor showing."

Tom Daschle is very saddened.

1 posted on 09/23/2006 12:48:58 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane

Is this the same posititon once held by Spong?


2 posted on 09/23/2006 1:01:24 PM PDT by paudio (Universal Human Rights and Multiculturalism: Liberals want to have cake and eat it too!)
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To: paudio
Is this the same posititon once held by Spong?

I believe so.

3 posted on 09/23/2006 1:02:21 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

The FACT that they'd even consider such an ABOMINATION ... tells me it doesn't matter WHO they run up the ladder for their leader. Some day ... they're going to have a lot of explaining to do before that White Throne.


4 posted on 09/23/2006 1:19:39 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: nmh

Shouldn't the NJ Episcoplaians be given some credit for not bowing down to the god of political correctness.


5 posted on 09/23/2006 1:26:16 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
"Shouldn't the NJ Episcoplaians be given some credit for not bowing down to the god of political correctness."

NO!

They've already bowed down in allowing a homosexual be on the ballet. It's just a matter of time till one gets in. The percentage against the homo are NOT impressive.
6 posted on 09/23/2006 1:32:36 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: nmh
They've already bowed down in allowing a homosexual be on the ballet. It's just a matter of time till one gets in.

Uh, but the candidate was soundly defeated in NJ of all places.

JMO, you should extend a hand of congratulations to the Episcoplaians in NJ for not doing the "popular" thing and not bowing down to political correctness.

7 posted on 09/23/2006 1:35:47 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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8 posted on 09/23/2006 5:38:36 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: nmh
They've already bowed down in allowing a homosexual be on the ballet.

I'm sorry, but you just asked for this:

Les Ballets Trockadero de Monte Carlo thank you!

9 posted on 09/23/2006 5:49:55 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Dane
"Uh, but the candidate was soundly defeated in NJ of all places. JMO, you should extend a hand of congratulations to the Episcoplaians in NJ for not doing the "popular" thing and not bowing down to political correctness."

Not by much! Defeated for the moment.

No, I'm not impressed. You can fabricate all the accolades you wish ... but others see ... .
10 posted on 09/23/2006 7:08:07 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Just put em Priest garb and then you summed it up.


11 posted on 09/23/2006 7:08:44 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Dane
"The Rev. Mark Beckwith won on the third ballot, taking 253, or about 53 percent of the 477 ballots cast by clergy and lay representatives. "

I remind you that 253 or about 53% of the 477 ballets CAST BY CLERGY and LAY personnel is NOT impressive. I remind you that ALL OF THESE people are supposed to believe in what the BIBLE STATES. In no way shape or form SHOULD a homosexual as a PRIEST, be acceptable in a leadership position.

I can see a 90 or 95% turn down as impressive. What these numbers tell me ~53% is that there is too much flexibility on behalf of the voters as to WHOM they find acceptable in a CHURHC LEADERSHIP ROLE. I remind you that GOD calls this an "abomination".
12 posted on 09/23/2006 7:13:29 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: nmh
LOL!

I've never minded the Trocks, because (1) they are only exactly what they claim to be - a bunch of (actually very talented) male dancers engaged in a send-up of creaky ballet traditions; (2) they confine their efforts to the artistic sphere, where traditionally homosexuals are afforded a good deal more leeway and have also refrained from politicking as a general rule; (3) anybody who buys a ticket knows exactly what they're getting into.

I wish that Vicki Gene had decided on a career in dance rather than allying himself with the loony elements in ECUSA/TEC. Everybody would be a lot happier, including Vicki Gene.

13 posted on 09/24/2006 5:30:52 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Maybe it's me ... but I just don't find gays dressed up as females amusing or entertaining. I wouldn't be caught dead there or give them the sweat off my behind to line their pockets.


14 posted on 09/24/2006 6:50:20 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: nmh
That's the point. If you don't like it you don't have to go.

The arts are separated from ordinary family activities like school, shopping, and church. Those of us who think the Trocks are a laff riot can buy our tickets and go enjoy ourselves -- those that don't, don't.

Which sounds a lot like the old trope about "knowing your place," but like most stereotypes there's a grain of truth in there. Nobody likes to have somebody else's alternative lifestyle shoved in their face, but if it's in a place where it's expected to be, and everybody knows it, nobody's offended and everybody can have a good time, those who go and those who stay away.

Seriously, though, they ARE funny. It's not so much a frankly homosexual event (although most of the Trocks are in fact) as a send-up of the foibles of the prima ballerina and the rest of the female corps de ballet -- which believe me was LONG overdue. If you've seen a typical local ballet company's Swan Lake and then watch the Trocks' version, it's a howler.

. . . of course, my mom's a professional dancer so I'm used to all this stuff.

15 posted on 09/24/2006 7:17:47 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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