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To: wideawake
That's a classic example of begging the qwestion.

Since it isn't a question that answers itself, it is NOT "begging the question." It is an introducing to the argument. Lesson: Learn your fallacies before citing them.

This is not only begging the question, but the author proceeds to bait-and-switch:

Again, the author is introducing his next argument. Lesson: Contextual comprehension is always a plus.

The "watchmaker" God is a deist notion. And creationism does not believe in "available parts" but that God created everything ex nihilo

Well, the Catholic Church believes in a "watchmaker" concept (as used in this context). Lesson: Don't make sweeping statements that can be punctured with one contrary example. But I will grant you the second part of your statement. Lesson: Even a blind squirrel finds an occasional nut.

No it does not. The author is completely unaware of what the doctrine of Original Sin is.

The author might not know what Extreme Unction is, either. Original Sin is a concept to a few branches of Christianity and CERTAINLY not all. Lesson: Don't assume facts that are not facts at all.

So does creationism (explain Family Values).

So what? It doesn't change the argument on point. Lesson: Don't make arguments that don't help your position.

(Evolution accounts for specific Christian moral precepts) And excludes others.

You cannot possibly state one moral precept that Evolution excludes. Lesson: Don't substitute pith for argumentation.

It also explains complete despotism as well. Evolutionism, unlike Christianity, does not inherently favor liberty - in fact, it undermines the concept.

This is flat out disingenuous. It is also unreasoned and unsupported. Lesson: Don't make bald and specious assertions on a board where people work with logic like car mechanics work with carburetors.

School's out for the day. I won't quiz you unless you make statements that show you didn't understand the lessons.

180 posted on 09/18/2006 6:52:12 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Insultification is the polar opposite of Niceosity)
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To: freedumb2003
Lesson: Learn your fallacies before citing them.

"Begging the question" is not a question that answers itself. It is when the proposition to be proved is already assumed in the premises.

I'll converse with you when you learn some manners.

242 posted on 09/19/2006 4:28:28 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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