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Catholicism and Buddhism: Compatible Beliefs?
Catholic Culture ^ | 08.29.06 | Peter Mirus

Posted on 08/29/2006 9:18:04 PM PDT by Coleus

Buddhism was introduced to the United States near the beginning of the 20th century, but over the past 30 years or so, Buddhism has crept into our cultural consciousness. For some it is known as having been co-opted into a marketing campaign (such as to promote the Zen Micro MP3 player), for others as a cause for Hollywood celebrities, for still others a trend in architectural design, etc. But for many others – approximately one million U.S. believers among 380 million worldwide who profess to be Buddhists rather than merely being spiritually or creatively influenced by its philosophies – it is a religion or deeply felt philosophy for both living and bringing peace to our troubled world.

I’ve gained some familiarity with Buddhism or Buddhist influences over the years. I have been acquainted with several individuals, including one lapsed Catholic and one agnostic, who were attracted to different variations of Buddhism (there are three prevalent in the United States, most familiarly Zen and Tibetan), and I have had some interesting discussions on the relative merits of Buddhism and whether any portions of it can be compatible with Catholicism.  My other encounters have been both academic and practical. I learned about Buddhism in both high school and college (for apologetic purposes). But I’ve also had a long-term fascination with design principles, marketing, and how these relate to business practices. In the course of investigating these subjects, you’d be surprised at how much Buddhist influence pops up, particularly in (but by no means limited) to the wellness industry.  The most recent item to pique my interest in Buddhism and its related phenomena was a December 2005 article in National Geographic that briefly describes Buddhism, its general principles, the demographics of its current adherents and the evolution and migration of its original varieties. In reading the article, I began to wonder if most Catholics know what Buddhism teaches and whether or not those teachings are compatible with Catholic beliefs.



What is Buddhism? Is it a philosophy or system of ethics like Confucianism, or a religion? Most importantly, does Buddhism or any of its practices lend anything to the practice of the Catholic faith?

Even devout followers of Buddha are divided over the matter of whether or not Buddhism is a religion or a philosophy. Part of the allure of Buddhism is that its essential tenets are supposedly based on Buddha’s observations (empirical evidence, as it were) rather than faith, and that Buddha reputedly encouraged his followers to personally test ideas rather than follow leadership blindly. From that viewpoint, it appears to be a philosophy. However, due to certain spiritual elements, the fact that Buddhism defines a sort of “salvation” and how to get there, and its monastic tradition, it appears to be a religion.  Practically, it is six of one, a half dozen of the other; the question of how to classify Buddhism (as being a theological or philosophical pursuit) is largely immaterial. No matter how it is classified, Buddhism still may possess indispensable articles of belief that are contrary to the teachings of the Church.

The essentials of Buddhism revolve around the Four Noble Truths:

1. There is suffering in the world, both of the mental and the physical variety.

2. Suffering is the result of inordinate attachment to one’s desires.

3. By doing away with inordinate desires (or attachments) you can do away with suffering.

4. There is a definite method by which one may achieve this goal: the Noble Eightfold Path (pursuing right view, intention, speech, action, livelihood, effort, mindfulness, concentration).

This is a very cursory abstract of Buddhist principles, but introductory material to the subject (in printed articles and online) can be nearly as cursory. So if you were just doing a quick survey or were on the receiving end of a New Age pitch for practicing Buddhist meditation techniques, etc., you wouldn’t necessarily see an incompatibility with Christian values.

The inexperienced soul might run down the check list.

1. The Church admits to the existence of mental and physical suffering.

2. The Church frankly admits that separating oneself from inordinate desires (or exercising control over the passions) is critical to personal holiness.

3. Naturally if everyone is holy there will be less suffering.

4. Nobody should disagree with this. We should all have right intention, only speak in a respectful and honest manner, act in peaceable and humble ways, pursue a career that does no harm to others, exert oneself with an eye towards self improvement, thus being able to see things clearly and attain a level of holiness where all ego has disappeared.

Additional “points in favor”: 5. The Catholic Church encourages spiritual meditation, and Buddhism encourages meditation.

6. Comparative studies have been done of the sayings of Buddha to the words of Christ. Many (if not most) do so with the intention of pointing out the similarities so as to promote greater dialogue and a sense of mutual purpose between the two religions.

These apparent similarities led to heightened Catholic interest in Buddhism with the rise of the New Age movement in the 1980’s and 1990’s. Some imagined that Buddhism had many new insights to offer to Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular due to their supposed compatibilities.

But Pope John Paul II threw water on that fire in 1994’s Crossing the Threshold of Hope with comments regarding Buddhism that received a good amount of press at the time (and also a lot of debate). In his comments, our late pontiff really didn’t pull any punches, calling Buddhism “in large measure an ‘atheistic’ system’.” He pulled the carpet out from under comparisons to Catholicism by pointing out that the ultimate end of man for Christians is union with God, while for Buddhists it is Nirvana (complete detachment, or a state of nothingness).

Two separate warnings concluded the Pope’s remarks on this subject. The first deals with the notion of extracting certain characteristics of Buddhism and incorporating them into Catholic practice:

For this reason it is not inappropriate to caution those Christians who enthusiastically welcome certain ideas originating in the religious traditions of the Far East—for example, techniques and methods of meditation and ascetical practice. In some quarters these have become fashionable, and are accepted rather uncritically. First one should know one's own spiritual heritage well and consider whether it is right to set it aside lightly. Here we need to recall, if only in passing, the brief but important document of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith "on certain aspects of Christian meditation" (10/15/1989). Here we find a clear answer to the question "whether and how [Christian prayer] can be enriched by methods of meditation originating in different religions and cultures".

Second, relating Buddhism to the New Age movement and its Gnostic aspects, the Pope wrote:

A separate issue is the return of ancient gnostic ideas under the guise of the so-called New Age. We cannot delude ourselves that this will lead toward a renewal of religion. It is only a new way of practicing gnosticism—that attitude of the spirit that, in the name of a profound knowledge of God, results in distorting His Word and replacing it with purely human words. Gnosticism never completely abandoned the realm of Christianity. Instead, it has always existed side by side with Christianity, sometimes taking the shape of a philosophical movement, but more often assuming the characteristics of a religion or para-religion in distinct, if not declared, conflict with all that is essentially Christian.

By means of these and other articulate remarks, the Holy Father clearly drew a sharp line between Buddhism and Christianity, rejecting any notion that the two are of like purpose and insisting that Buddhist principles are to be gravely cautioned against.   Interestingly, some critics of the Pope’s remarks stated with vigor that Buddhism is not “atheistic”. Counter attacks varied. One Buddhist commented in rebuttal that followers of Buddha believe that he was the “teacher of gods and men”, and that some Buddhists believe in multiple deities or spirits that look after the affairs of both men and nature. Others pointed out that certain teachings of Buddha specifically point to an uncreated being without which nothing would be in existence.  Please note that though these arguments object to the Pope’s characterization of Buddhism, they in fact do nothing to bring it closer to Catholicism.


I don’t deny that there is an attractive simplicity to Buddhism in its “middle road” of peace and moderation, as well as its solemn and ascetic rituals. Buddhism offers for your consideration inner peace and material detachment, as well as specific practices for improving oneself and making the world a better place. The world is fast-paced, panicky, and loud. The Buddhist life is presented as being well paced, with well reasoned intentions that transform into peaceful actions.   These things can be inviting to wandering Catholic souls fed up with the world’s egocentrism, but who feel that their own faith is, by contrast, considerably more bulky and complex. There is a feeling among many Catholics that to be truly Catholic in every action necessitates extensive time for research, and that you have to be an intellectual to practice spiritual meditation. Buddhism, I regret to say, is probably better “marketed” than the Catholic faith. But the Pope is right: for Buddhists, salvation is a privation of individual consciousness; for Catholics salvation is an eternally fulfilling relationship with a loving Creator. There is no comparison.


St. Francis de Sales.

Thus the Pope also comments that Catholic spirituality picks up where Buddhism leaves off. For both Buddhists and Catholics “detachment” is important, but for Catholics detachment is not an end in itself. St. Francis de Sales preached that man must desire to “possess his soul” rather than allow it to be possessed by worldly things. Catholics pursue this for the purpose of elevating their soul by offering it back to Christ. So detachment is a means to a rich and meaningful “higher awareness” (if you will) that reaches its culmination in seeing God face to face.  In truth, from its individual practices to its ultimate goal, Buddhism possesses nothing of value that is not already possessed and perfected by Catholicism.

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1 posted on 08/29/2006 9:18:05 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

You are on it! Was going to post this too. Just got the email today! Good article.


2 posted on 08/29/2006 9:34:38 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Coleus
6. Comparative studies have been done of the sayings of Buddha to the words of Christ. Many (if not most) do so with the intention of pointing out the similarities so as to promote greater dialogue and a sense of mutual purpose between the two religions.

For argument's sake, the Buddha was born half-a-millennium before Christ.

3 posted on 08/29/2006 10:32:07 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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Jesus Christ, The Bearer of the Water of Life: A Christian Reflection on the New Age
4 posted on 08/29/2006 10:44:50 PM PDT by Coleus (I Support Research using the Ethical, Effective and Moral use of stem cells: non-embryonic "adult")
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To: Coleus
My wife and I were talking of Buddhism the other day. It is a religion without a god, and is basically a philosophy of monastic nihilism.

Funny thing though, there are some accounts that the Buddhists monasteries came about from Christian influences (the Nestorians in the area).
5 posted on 08/30/2006 6:19:36 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


6 posted on 08/30/2006 9:04:09 AM PDT by Coleus (I Support Research using the Ethical, Effective and Moral use of stem cells: non-embryonic "adult")
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To: Coleus; All
Catholicism and Buddhism: Compatible Beliefs?

Heck no. Next question.

What I think is really hilarious is when people try to mix transcendental meditation in with Christianity...gee, throwing out the prayer Jesus taught (Lord's Prayer/Our Father) so you can have something "better" is real compatible with Christianity...

7 posted on 08/30/2006 9:31:10 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (NewsMax gives aid and comfort to the enemy-- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1642052/posts)
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To: Salvation
The essentials of Buddhism revolve around the Four Noble Truths.

Islam rests upon its "five pillars".

Christianity is the great commission to bring all humanity into the body of christ.

8 posted on 08/30/2006 11:07:37 AM PDT by x_plus_one (No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American Public)
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To: Coleus

One of the major lines of Bhuddism evolved about 2,000 years ago, and is far more amenable (ironic spelling, eh?) to Christianity than the other two. For instance, it asserts that good and evil exist, that good will triumph over evil, and that the goal is to be unified with goodness, rather than the spiritual obliteration which Nirvana was previously held to be. Is it a coincidence? It emerged from the time and approximate place of the preaching of St. Thomas in India.


9 posted on 08/30/2006 6:14:11 PM PDT by dangus
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To: redgolum

The "St.-Thomas Catholics" of India would be highly offended if they read you refer to them as Nestorians. Nestorianism is considered a heresy, and the St.-Thomas Catholics are fiercely protective of their status of legitimate Catholics in full union with Rome. Amazingly, this union was maintained despite over 1,000 years of isolation from the Vatican.


10 posted on 08/30/2006 6:17:24 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Coleus
But for many others – approximately one million U.S. believers among 380 million worldwide ...

There is no such thing as a Buddhist believer. There isn't anything to believe.

He (Pope John Paul II) pulled the carpet out from under comparisons to Catholicism by pointing out that the ultimate end of man for Christians is union with God, while for Buddhists it is Nirvana (complete detachment, or a state of nothingness).

He made two major errors here. One, nirvana is unequivocally NOT the ultimate end for a Buddhist practitioner. Two, the ultimate end, beyond samsara and nirvana (Dharmakaya) is not nothingness. Two faulty premises is not an auspicious way to begin a list of edicts or a treatise.

A separate issue is the return of ancient gnostic ideas under the guise of the so-called New Age.

Gnostic means "knowing." Gotta throw that out.

...and that some Buddhists believe in multiple deities or spirits that look after the affairs of both men and nature.

That's true. A few odd sects who departed rather sharply from the Buddha's teachings.

But the Pope is right: for Buddhists, salvation is a privation of individual consciousness;...

That's 180 degrees out of sync.

For both Buddhists and Catholics “detachment” is important, but for Catholics detachment is not an end in itself.

It's not an end for Buddhists either. It's a means to the end which could be considered a complete engagement with reality. The more one detaches from the insubstantial reality of phenomena the more one realizes the absolute nature that all phenomena arises from. Finally there is nothing left but that. There can't be.

St. Francis de Sales preached that man must desire to “possess his soul” rather than allow it to be possessed by worldly things.

I take that as an inference that Buddhists do allow their "soul" to be possessed by worldy things. LOL Define "soul" and I might be able to respond to this backhanded attempt to slight Buddhism. Nice touch to be sure.

So detachment is a means to a rich and meaningful “higher awareness” (if you will) that reaches its culmination in seeing God face to face.

That's a thought ... which like all phenomena without exception arises and then dissolves back where it came from. The thought of God arises and then the thought of God dissolves. All phenomena is impermanent. Only the absolute state it arises from remains unchanged.

11 posted on 08/30/2006 9:31:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (Mind speaks in great silence. Ego chatters endlessly on.)
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To: Coleus

The article has many points of interest.

Does anyone have any comments as to why a number of Jesuit priests were so impressed by Buddhism that they have undergone years of training to become "sensei" (sp?) in the Japanese Buddhist tradition?

My own view, is that they found a sort of challenge in that, a depth of experience, which was otherwise lacking in their religious culture.


12 posted on 08/30/2006 11:35:49 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: dangus
There were St. Thomas Catholics in India, but there were also a good number of Nestorians further north (if I remember right, the Catholics were more on the coast).

The Buddhists probably got the idea for monasteries from both. I honestly forgot the Catholics (what is the designation for there rite? Something with a M isn't it?)
13 posted on 08/31/2006 7:52:20 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

Both the groups, the Syro-Malabarese, and the Malankarese, are wholly Catholic. Both were presumed Nestorian by the Indian missionaries. The split between the two groups, IIRC, is one changed its rite to be more Western, while the other held out longer before being recognized as in communion, in order to preserve their 1900+-year-old rites. Neither were Nestorian, but were thought to be because:
1. It was falsely presumed that they had preserved their liturgies with the help of Persian Christians, who were Nestorian.
2. Never having to confornt the Nestorian heresy, they had taken no side, but both did readily accept the Roman position on Nestorianism.


14 posted on 08/31/2006 10:42:43 AM PDT by dangus
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To: TigersEye

You are representing one line of Buddhist thought, presumed to be the newer one, as if it represented all of Buddhism.


15 posted on 08/31/2006 10:44:48 AM PDT by dangus
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To: BlackVeil

>> Does anyone have any comments as to why a number of Jesuit priests were so impressed by Buddhism that they have undergone years of training to become "sensei" (sp?) in the Japanese Buddhist tradition? <<

My guess is because the Jedi were based largely on Jesuit and Buddhist thought, and they thought if they wanted to be reeally cool, they'd have to learn the Buddhist stuff, too. And, then, as a bonus, they could also sound like Neo Anderson, the New Son of Man and the Groom of Trinity, from the Matrix.


16 posted on 08/31/2006 10:47:08 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus
I primarily know Tibetan Buddhism that is true. I don't know that it is particularly new and everything is presented with a clear founding upon the principles of the Buddha's original teachings.

There is probably more than one flavor of Zen practice (and I don't know even one of them in great depth) but I have yet to read anything Zen that runs contrary to what I have said. I can say the same for what I know of Theraveda Buddhism and have never heard a teacher say that either runs contrary to the original teachings and in fact have heard them say that they do not.

What does seem contrary to Vajrayana practice comes down to differences in method and approach not principle. Those three types of Buddhism probably account for the vast majority Buddhists in the world today. New Age philosophy and/or western "Buddhism" doesn't even enter into it AFAIC.

17 posted on 08/31/2006 11:54:45 AM PDT by TigersEye (If you don't understand the 2nd Amend. you don't understand America!)
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