I say you didn’t make much of an argument with your post. You may say differently, nice collection of scriptures, too bad you didn’t use them better.
I say that you are resorting to the tactics of someone who has nothing further of value to bring to the debating table.
Of course, ... such behaviour is not at all uncharacteristic of the Mormons posting to this site.
You all have variety of such (ineffectual) tactics that you use ... when you can no longer proceed with honest debate.
I say that you are resorting to the tactics of someone who has nothing further of value to bring to the debating table.
Of course, ... such behaviour is not at all uncharacteristic of the Mormons posting to this site.
You all have variety of such (ineffectual) tactics that you use ... when you can no longer proceed with honest debate. ~ Quester
In all the years I have seen you post "Quester", to the LDS such as Grig James one of the longest dialogue, even Logogphile etc!
You never gave an acknowledgement to any thing that that stared you in the face!
You are not truly a "Quester" as in "Quest!" that is a misnomer because a seekers want to know the truth not deny it!
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Matt. 11:
25 ¶ At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
Matt. 16:
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Luke 10:
21 ¶ In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
John 6:
32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
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John 6:
42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?
43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. (a servant of God like Moses or Enoch, Joseph is purified [elevated] for a brief time is able to see the Father)
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John 17:
1 THESE words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
Eph. 1:
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
Quester I can't help but marvel...
Jesus could bear witness to you "Quester" of His Father in Heaven, and you would tell Jesus he is wrong for the Nicene Creed says..
>>I say that you are resorting to the tactics of someone who has nothing further
>>of value to bring to the debating table.
I knew you were going to say that!
>>Of course, ... such behaviour is not at all uncharacteristic of the Mormons posting to this site.
Spell check it’s your friend
>>You all have variety of such (ineffectual) tactics that you use ...
Every one has favorite tactics and they tend to vary by person and also by mood. What was the point of your almost sentence again?
>>when you can no longer proceed with honest debate.
Please define honest and dishonest debate. I did not know that we were debating yet, you simply posted an “I say” section about your opinions. My philosophy professor taught me “whenever it is a matter of opinion, I am right”. So, let’s discuss debate, first, how long have I been on this thread, and how long have you been part of this debate.
I have been on this thread for about 700 Posts, probably a quarter of these posts are mine, topics have ranged from The council at nice, hyppolytus, Modern revelation, the book of Mormon’s origin, the nature of God, Early reformation efforts by the apostles and more.
Please, go read all my posts on this thread, so you know what has already been said (since you are jumping in “in the middle” as it were). Now about debate, there is an accepted form for debate typically it is more than just a collection of reference material which leaves the reader to their own interpretation (Not a good thing in debate).
You posted a collection of scriptures which if tied together might have made an argument worth listening to, but since you always started with “I say” which is at best a bad debating tactic, at worst an attempt to assert truth “because I say so”. Either way, it’s a semi public forum, want to try again?
This time instead of saying “I say…” try forming a hypothesis, support it with scripture and summarize drawing on more scripture. In your summary, try to look at things from my perspective and preempt any scriptures I might bring up to support my interpretation, by using them in your original statement you may make it more difficult for me to frame a cogent reply. I typically use word, write my answers (Spell Check is automatic), read the response out loud, then cut and paste it into the reply box.
Framing a proper, researched, coherent argument takes time, if you don’t have it, get another hobby FR is not for the rushed, they end up embarrassing themselves.
Personally, I would rather let a reply wait a couple of days before responding so I can respond properly, instead of trying to get a response out in a 5 minute window of time
This lesson on basic debate was brought to you by the letters A and H which together make the sound Ah! Like someone who just got a clue.