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To: Quester; Grig; Logophile; Utah Girl

>>I say that you are resorting to the tactics of someone who has nothing further
>>of value to bring to the debating table.

I knew you were going to say that!

>>Of course, ... such behaviour is not at all uncharacteristic of the Mormons posting to this site.

Spell check it’s your friend

>>You all have variety of such (ineffectual) tactics that you use ...

Every one has favorite tactics and they tend to vary by person and also by mood. What was the point of your almost sentence again?

>>when you can no longer proceed with honest debate.

Please define honest and dishonest debate. I did not know that we were debating yet, you simply posted an “I say” section about your opinions. My philosophy professor taught me “whenever it is a matter of opinion, I am right”. So, let’s discuss debate, first, how long have I been on this thread, and how long have you been part of this debate.

I have been on this thread for about 700 Posts, probably a quarter of these posts are mine, topics have ranged from The council at nice, hyppolytus, Modern revelation, the book of Mormon’s origin, the nature of God, Early reformation efforts by the apostles and more.

Please, go read all my posts on this thread, so you know what has already been said (since you are jumping in “in the middle” as it were). Now about debate, there is an accepted form for debate typically it is more than just a collection of reference material which leaves the reader to their own interpretation (Not a good thing in debate).

You posted a collection of scriptures which if tied together might have made an argument worth listening to, but since you always started with “I say” which is at best a bad debating tactic, at worst an attempt to assert truth “because I say so”. Either way, it’s a semi public forum, want to try again?

This time instead of saying “I say…” try forming a hypothesis, support it with scripture and summarize drawing on more scripture. In your summary, try to look at things from my perspective and preempt any scriptures I might bring up to support my interpretation, by using them in your original statement you may make it more difficult for me to frame a cogent reply. I typically use word, write my answers (Spell Check is automatic), read the response out loud, then cut and paste it into the reply box.

Framing a proper, researched, coherent argument takes time, if you don’t have it, get another hobby FR is not for the rushed, they end up embarrassing themselves.
Personally, I would rather let a reply wait a couple of days before responding so I can respond properly, instead of trying to get a response out in a 5 minute window of time

This lesson on basic debate was brought to you by the letters A and H which together make the sound Ah! Like someone who just got a clue.


725 posted on 05/15/2006 8:17:36 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser
Please define honest and dishonest debate. I did not know that we were debating yet, you simply posted an “I say” section about your opinions. My philosophy professor taught me “whenever it is a matter of opinion, I am right”. So, let’s discuss debate, first, how long have I been on this thread, and how long have you been part of this debate.

I have been on this thread for about 700 Posts, probably a quarter of these posts are mine, topics have ranged from The council at nice, hyppolytus, Modern revelation, the book of Mormon’s origin, the nature of God, Early reformation efforts by the apostles and more.

Please, go read all my posts on this thread, so you know what has already been said (since you are jumping in “in the middle” as it were).


I’ve read the thread … including your comments. If you check, you’ll find that I started to post at around post # 250. I was tracking the thread a good bit before that.

Now about debate, there is an accepted form for debate typically it is more than just a collection of reference material which leaves the reader to their own interpretation (Not a good thing in debate).

You posted a collection of scriptures which if tied together might have made an argument worth listening to, but since you always started with “I say” which is at best a bad debating tactic, at worst an attempt to assert truth “because I say so”.


You’ve misunderstood.

I’m not saying … "Because I say so."

I’m saying … this is my say (i.e. my opinion) … in response to your specific request in post # 707 …
I say this is debatable, because we are indeed debating it. What say you ?
So ... it seems that my response was quite appropriate … and that we are debating.

Of course, I posted scriptural support for my say (i.e. opinion) as well.

This lesson on basic debate was brought to you by the letters A and H which together make the sound Ah! Like someone who just got a clue.

Now there you go again … R. Reagan 1980

730 posted on 05/15/2006 9:27:35 AM PDT by Quester
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