[PetroniusMaximus]

Not that it's a make or break, but...

What Church fathers do you draw on (besides Augustine) to make the case that something like Calvinism was believed historically by the Church?

I ask, because it is my understanding that the Church always believed in free will and the sovereignty of God.

[Gamecock]

Paul

[HarleyD]

What Church fathers do you draw on (besides Augustine) to make the case that something like Calvinism was believed historically by the Church?

Faith, then, as well in its beginning as in its completion, is God's gift; and let no one have any doubt whatever, unless he desires to resist the plainest sacred writings, that this gift is given to some, while to some it is not given. - Augustine, A Treatise on the Predestination of the Saints

Do you or the Catholic Church as it now stands believe Augustine's statement-that faith is only given as a gift to a few?

[murdoog]

What Church fathers do you draw on (besides Augustine)

This is a little like asking "Aside from that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"