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To: Calabash; DouglasKC; XeniaSt
"And on the first day of the week, when we were assembled to break bread, Paul discoursed with them, being to depart on the morrow: and he continued his speech until midnight." (Acts 20.7)

Havdalah meal, not a communion! This passage (Acts 20:7) is taking place after the Sabbath, and before midnight on a Saturday night.....which in Hebrew terms, would be the first day of the week.....the evening part.

"On the first day of the week let every one of you put apart with himself, laying up what it shall well please him; that when I come, the collections be not then to be made." (1 Corinthians 16.2)

This is a collection for the Saints in Jerusalem where a major famine was in progress. You can also read about this in Romans 15:22-33. This is not a tithe during a church service....it is a collection (something set aside) on a normal work day.....the first day of the week.....and for the Saints in Jerusalem....nobody else!

Your position regarding Sunday as the "Day of the Lord" is unsupported by scripture.....you know it, I know it and everyone on this board knows it.

139 posted on 04/11/2006 4:42:07 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618
Havdalah meal, not a communion!

No, most definitely the Eucharist. In the Aramaic Bible we read: "And on Sunday, while we were gathered to break the Eucharist, Paul spoke with them, because on the following day he was destined to leave. And his speaking dragged until the middle of the night." (Acts 20.7)

This passage (Acts 20:7) is taking place after the Sabbath, and before midnight on a Saturday night.....which in Hebrew terms, would be the first day of the week.....the evening part.

In the Catholic Church, if you knew anything of liturgical history, you would know that services traditionally began on Saturday night with the Vigil of Vespers and Matins and carried over to Sunday morning with the Eucharist.

This is a collection for the Saints in Jerusalem where a major famine was in progress. You can also read about this in Romans 15:22-33. This is not a tithe during a church service....it is a collection (something set aside) on a normal work day.....the first day of the week.....and for the Saints in Jerusalem....nobody else!

The Christians met once per week at this time. if they were meeting to collect money, it was part of their weekly worship meeting. Pliny the Younger writing in AD 117 to Emperor Trajan concerning the Christians notes: "They asserted, however, that the sum and substance of their fault or error had been that they were accustomed to meet on a fixed day before dawn and sing responsively a hymn to Christ as to a god, and to bind themselves by oath, not to some crime, but not to commit fraud, theft, or adultery, not falsify their trust, nor to refuse to return a trust when called upon to do so."

Your position regarding Sunday as the "Day of the Lord" is unsupported by scripture.....you know it, I know it and everyone on this board knows it.

So what day then is "the Day of the Lord"? Wednesday?

Your position regarding Sunday as NOT being the "Day of the Lord" is unsupported by even the faintest scrap of historical knowledge ... you know it, I know it and everyone on this board knows it.

140 posted on 04/11/2006 8:23:24 PM PDT by Calabash
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To: Diego1618; DouglasKC; XeniaSt
Havdalah meal, not a communion!

First Century Christians were not practicing Midrashic and Talmudic nostrums, such as those concerning meals to welcome and bade farewell to "the Queen of the Sabbath", seeing how strongly Jesus had condemned these myths (St. Matthew 15 and 23).

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/s/shabbat_hamalka.html

We can see from reading about these things, that the Lubavitch Hasidim still practice faithfully, precisely what Jesus was confronting and condemning when he fought the Pharisees over their traditions of men.

142 posted on 04/11/2006 8:57:46 PM PDT by Calabash
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