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To: Diego1618
Havdalah meal, not a communion!

No, most definitely the Eucharist. In the Aramaic Bible we read: "And on Sunday, while we were gathered to break the Eucharist, Paul spoke with them, because on the following day he was destined to leave. And his speaking dragged until the middle of the night." (Acts 20.7)

This passage (Acts 20:7) is taking place after the Sabbath, and before midnight on a Saturday night.....which in Hebrew terms, would be the first day of the week.....the evening part.

In the Catholic Church, if you knew anything of liturgical history, you would know that services traditionally began on Saturday night with the Vigil of Vespers and Matins and carried over to Sunday morning with the Eucharist.

This is a collection for the Saints in Jerusalem where a major famine was in progress. You can also read about this in Romans 15:22-33. This is not a tithe during a church service....it is a collection (something set aside) on a normal work day.....the first day of the week.....and for the Saints in Jerusalem....nobody else!

The Christians met once per week at this time. if they were meeting to collect money, it was part of their weekly worship meeting. Pliny the Younger writing in AD 117 to Emperor Trajan concerning the Christians notes: "They asserted, however, that the sum and substance of their fault or error had been that they were accustomed to meet on a fixed day before dawn and sing responsively a hymn to Christ as to a god, and to bind themselves by oath, not to some crime, but not to commit fraud, theft, or adultery, not falsify their trust, nor to refuse to return a trust when called upon to do so."

Your position regarding Sunday as the "Day of the Lord" is unsupported by scripture.....you know it, I know it and everyone on this board knows it.

So what day then is "the Day of the Lord"? Wednesday?

Your position regarding Sunday as NOT being the "Day of the Lord" is unsupported by even the faintest scrap of historical knowledge ... you know it, I know it and everyone on this board knows it.

140 posted on 04/11/2006 8:23:24 PM PDT by Calabash
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To: Calabash; DouglasKC; XeniaSt
No, most definitely the Eucharist. In the Aramaic Bible we read: "And on Sunday, while we were gathered to break the Eucharist, Paul spoke with them, because on the following day he was destined to leave. And his speaking dragged until the middle of the night." (Acts 20.7)

Even the Douay-Rheims says "On the first day of the week.....". You realize, of course, that the day began at sunset for the Hebrews, the Apostles and the early church. Evening and morning....(evening comes first), one day. The beginning of the day for the New Testament church was at sundown....and the meal being described is simply that....a meal (not a communion) and Paul spoke until midnight as he was planning on leaving the next day......the Sabbath now being past.

In all of these translations only one gives the slightest hint of something other than a regular meal.

Your Aramaic Bible can say what it wants but The Greek says "on the first of the week." Notice it doesn't even say [DAY]...that is added.....and the first of the week would be Saturday evening, shortly after sunset. The Book of Acts was written by Luke....in Greek and by a Greek.

The Christians met once per week at this time. if they were meeting to collect money, it was part of their weekly worship meeting.

This collection, as I specified before, was for the Saints in Jerusalem and was not a tithe. If you notice Paul says he is coming to get this "Gift" and will if need be deliver it himself. This is a gift to the Jerusalem Church and is not a Sunday morning collection that you would like it to be. They are to set it aside and save it up.

So what day then is "the Day of the Lord"? Wednesday?

Day of The Lord This day is never called Sunday anywhere in scripture.....or called...the first day of the week!

144 posted on 04/11/2006 9:28:40 PM PDT by Diego1618
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