Posted on 03/20/2006 7:50:53 PM PST by NYCCatholic
Pope’s upcoming Apostolic Exhortation likely to call for increased liturgical solemnity, reintegration of Latin
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Any Catholic who attends Mass every Sunday from childhood should be able to learn and sing these quite easily.
I have a friend who will love the "applause" thing. She hates it when people applaud at the end of a Mass.
Maybe next they could think about reinstating:
Kneelers,
Tabernacles within the area of the alter,
The Eternal Flame,
unleavened bread,
If your church has been built in the last 10 years and still has these things, consider yourself lucky!
Latin does have its advantages. Some time ago, I was sitting next to a couple obviously fresh in from Mexico. The wife was struggling to keep up with the missalette. The husband obviously had no clue.
I thought then that if we at least could all say our basic prayers in Latin, we would both know what we are saying and we could do it together.
Most of us can comprehend the meaning of "Sanctus, sanctus, sanctus" without a single lesson in Latin. Liturgical Latin is really not that difficult.
I think Hosanna is Hebrew.
Do you know that in Rome, at the end of the Mass when the Pope is processing out, the congregation always claps and cheers him on. Quite enthusiastically, too. And it's not just the Pope. I went to a Mass celebrated by Cardinal Ruini and they did the same thing with him.
You do have to keep in mind that there is "invitation" and there is INVITATION, "encourage" and "ENCOURAGE." Church-speak has inflections and tones and bishops are for the most part not tone-deaf. The words don't matter very much, what matters is whether bishops think Benedict XVI really means it or not.
And that will be signaled by deeds, not words. He has made two or three highly eloquent moves in the Curia--demoting the one guy (I forget his name and position) to an embassy in Jordan or somewhere in Nowheresville instead of promoting him to what he thought was his rightful next post in the Curia. In other words, he turfed him out of the Curia. Then he brought in the new guy for the Congregation for Divine Worship--a pro-Latin, pro-Tridentine character. That speaks volumes more than the words in this statement alone. What's crucial now is to see what happens to Sodano who seems to have tried to lead a palace revolution and failed.
The statement on which this thread's responses comment is important because it puts the bishops of the world on notice. They can't say they don't know what Benedict wants them to do. His actions will tell them whether there will be any consequences for not doing it.
Not that Benedict will sack those who don't get with the program. No, it sends signals to their fellow bishops about what Benedict wants and strengthens their hands in the national conferences of bishops where these things get thrashed out. Up to now the efforts by the reform of the reform reformers have been stymied in the NCCB because the block of resisters is about half to two/thirds of the NCCB. But of that half to two-thirds, some are hard core resisters who will never change their tune, others are winnable. All that has to happen is for the halfhearted resisters to see the handwriting on the wall and fold their cards.
Will it happen? I won't hold my breath. But is it impossible? No. So take heart, be en-couraged, and pray.
In montgomery country pa, St. Helena has built a new church that was consecrated on Oct. 31, 2004. I must say that when you walk into it, you feel like you are in a church that has been there for the last 50+ years. All the furnishings are from a church that closed in Philadelphia in 2003. Everything from the Reredos, the altar and stations are beautifull! They even left our ugly carpeting!
Pope Benedict proposes, ICEL disposes.
Nah, all you need is a couple of floor jacks and some spackle. Just roll the altar back to the east wall where it belongs!
There's a historical church downtown here (Immaculate Conception) where they still have the original reredos with niches for statues of saints and the Tabernacle. Moving the Tabernacle (which is stuck in a corner over to one side), the altar and a few floor tiles would do it.
Even our parish church, which is of recent construction, could be reworked pretty easily. You could even add an altar rail without much trouble, and rearrange the chairs along the sides. There's even a rudimentary choir already in place (between the two sets of steps). The architect was very consciously looking backwards in the design.
Our Tabernacle would fit nicely in the central niche of the reredos. (It's currently at the head of the aisle on the decani side.)
Abp Michael Fitzgerald whom everyone expected to get a red hat is now sojourning in the desert. Abp. Patabendige Don from Sri Lanka is now the Secretary for Divine Worship who has a strong affinity for TLM. (Papa transferred the former secretary Sorrentino, who was problematic, out of this position to Assisi where he is under the watchful eye of Cdl. Ruini).
LOL
I believe I read on FR that the USCCB holds the copyright on that awful translation they use in the missalettes (NAB?).
I'd like a "market-based" approach. Set the Traditional Latin Mass free, restoring the right for any priest to offer it without having to get permission.
Perhaps also allow the 1965 Missal. Let them all co-exist, and see what results.
Such musical schlock has miserably failed the test of time.
Most church musicians are incapable of singing the music - and forget about the people singing along. Yet the songs are supposedly designed to be sung by the people.
Unless the song is a true classic, I simply smile silently.
I will no longer participate in the charade.
I gave it a good try, but if you combine the subversive newage feminist political lyrics of so many of the songs with the low quality of the music and style not suitable for liturgical worship, the music is just crapola (latin for crap).
I don't like to stand in church with crapola coming out of my mouth.
Looks like the liturgy will "rise again from ashes" (to steal a line from one of the merrie melodies we are bombarded with this time of year).
Thank you, Papa Ratzi!
I think the Confiteor should stay in the vernacular. People need to be reminded that they personally are sinners who need prayer and forgiveness.
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