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To: F.J. Mitchell

The Crusades where prior to the Muslim forays into Europe.


62 posted on 03/19/2006 7:54:37 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie

More crap. See the Byzantine Empire.


65 posted on 03/19/2006 7:57:13 PM PST by Sweetjustusnow ("You're either with us or with the terrorists." Time to live up to that statement Mr. President.)
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To: Torie

"The Crusades were prior to the Muslim forays into Europe."

From whence comes your information? Osama Bin Laden?

Check out: www.crisismagazine.com/april 202/cover.htm


86 posted on 03/19/2006 8:58:45 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (President Bush isn't absolutely perfect,but he is absolutely less flawed than his critics .)
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To: Torie

***The Crusades where prior to the Muslim forays into Europe.***

Where did you get that? At a Government school?

The battle of TOURS (Poictiers)was fought in 732AD in France not far from Paris. Invading moslems vs Charles Martel! Charles won.
600s AD Moslems swept cacross Christian lands and up into Spain.
732 AD Tours.
The Moslems invaded and sacked Rome in the 700s AD.
Moslems captured Sicily.
And in the East Moslems were killing their way into Chrisian Syria and Anatolia.
Then swept in the Moslem TURKs who blocked all Christian traffic to Jerusalem and destroyed the Christian shrines everywhere.

One of Islam's greatest leaders was ABU BEKR. The first Syrian city he conquered was Bosra. A man named Romanus was the leader of this city. The invaders caused him to say these words,
"I deny Him that was crucified, and whosoever worships him. I choose God(Allah) for my Lord, Islam for my faith, Mecca for my temple, the Moslems for my bretheren, and Mohammed for my prophet."...The History of Nations by Lodge


95 posted on 03/19/2006 9:41:38 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Torie
The Crusades where prior to the Muslim forays into Europe.

What then were the Muslim conquest of Christian Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Lybia, Africa, Spain, Provencal, Malta, Sicily, Sardinia, the Baleric Islands, Crete, Cyprus, Anatolia, etc. prior to the Crusades?

Who were Charles Martel and El Cid fighting against?

Goodness gracious Torie! You surely know more history than you are displaying here!

161 posted on 03/20/2006 8:21:55 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Torie
The Crusades where prior to the Muslim forays into Europe.

Not true. The Muslims went far into central France in the 8th Century. And throughout the centuries "Saracens" plundered, raped, and pillaged Mediterranean Christian cities in Italy and beyond.

198 posted on 03/20/2006 11:59:13 AM PST by Robertsll
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