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Orthodox in Ukraine Ready to Go to Court for Return of Churches
RISU ^ | 3/17/06

Posted on 03/17/2006 4:10:23 PM PST by vladimir998

Orthodox in Ukraine Ready to Go to Court for Return of Churches 17.03.2006, [11:48] // Protest //

Kyiv—The Orthodox of Ukraine are ready “by court proceedings to work for the return of former Orthodox churches which the Greek Catholics hold at the given moment.” So said Valentyn Lukianyk, head of the All-Ukrainian Orthodox Brotherhood of St. Michael the Archangel, at a press conference. Pravoslavye.org.ua posted the news on 14 March 2006.

"We are ready to bring the case to court,” Lukianyk said. According to Lukianyk, Greek Catholics now occupy two Orthodox churches in Kyiv, namely, St. Nicholas Church on Askold’s Tomb and the Chapel of Nicholas the Kind on Podil Street.

“The church on Askold’s Tomb is an architectural monument. But during its restoration the Uniates [Greek Catholics] changed its appearance and placed a memorial board with an image of the Pope of Rome, which, by the way, may serve as another reason for a separate suit,” said Lukianyk.

“We have addressed the Kyiv authorities many times. The authorities should have conscience and cancel the decision about the transfer of churches for the use of the Catholics. It is a shame, as Ukrainians recognized themselves as a nation in the struggle against the Uniates. The Uniates are building their cathedral in Kyiv, so let them gather there,” Lukianyk added.

Also, Lukianyk reported that the Orthodox are going to demand the return of the building of the Kyiv Mohyla Academy to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church-Moscow Patriarchate (UOC-MP) and found a monastery there.

RISU asked Fr. Ihor Yatsiv, head of the Press Service of the Head of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church (UGCC), for commentary on Lukianyk’s statements. Fr. Yatsiv said that this is nothing else but “an attempt to prevent the faithful of the UGCC from participation in Liturgies.” According to Fr.Yatsiv, the mentioned churches of the UGCC gather many faithful at Sunday Liturgies, and he asked “Do these people have to celebrate outside?”

Fr. Yatsiv said he is convinced that the UOC-MP does not lack churches in Kyiv.

Regarding what Lukianyk referred to as “another reason for a separate suit,” according to UGCC Fr. Ihor Onyshkevych, pastor of the church on Askold’s Tomb, there were present at the ceremony of the unveiling of the memorial board portraying the Pope of Rome state officials responsible for the preservation of historical monuments.


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You can take one look at the Gothic church of St. Nick's and KNOW it was never a Ukrainian Orthodox church: President Orders Transfer of Kyiv Church to Roman Catholics 24.01.2006, [19:05] // Church-state relations //

Kyiv – Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko signed an order to transfer the Church of St. Nicholas in Kyiv “for the use of St. Nicholas’ Parish of the Roman Catholic Church” in order “to provide for the spiritual needs of the faithful and conditions for the future functioning of the Ukrainian National House of Organ and Chamber Music.” catholicmedia.org.ua posted the news on 20 January 2006.

The Roman Catholic Community in Kyiv has tried to have St Nicholas’ Church returned to the faithful and the church for 14 years. Previous addresses to Ukraine’s ex-presidents L. Kravchuk and L. Kuchma brought no results. The Ukrainian National House of Organ and Chamber Music is still functioning in the building of the church.

The transfer of the church to the full property of the faithful will be possible after “the Ukrainian National House of Organ and Chamber Music will be given another building in Kyiv” and if “concerts of organ and chamber music will be conducted in the building of St. Nicholas’ Church.”

The presidential order is to be fulfilled by 1 July 2006. The faithful of the Roman Catholic Church continue to pray for the return of the church, which would serve the needs of the faithful.

Source:

• http://www.catholicmedia.org.ua/ukr/novina.php?novinaid=2637

http://www.risu.org.ua/eng/news/article;8816/

1 posted on 03/17/2006 4:10:26 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Soooo, any indication of when the alleged misappropriation happened, or are we left to just guess whether any applicable statute of limitations comes into play?


2 posted on 03/17/2006 5:08:15 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

I might be mistaken, but I assume the churches in question were seized by the Orthodox under the guidance of the Communist Party in the late 1940's when Catholics were forced into the Orthodox Church.


3 posted on 03/17/2006 5:37:58 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998

Come to think of it, maybe the big St. Nick's church in question was seized by the communist government, used by it, and never used by the Orthodox, but the Orthodox are fighting the church's repatriation to Catholics because they think the Catholics are getting a freebie.


4 posted on 03/17/2006 6:04:09 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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Okay, thanks. I guess you could make the case the the statute limitations was "tolled" under the circumstances.


5 posted on 03/17/2006 6:10:53 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido
the the statute limitations

"that the statute of limitations"

Sheesh!

6 posted on 03/17/2006 6:11:58 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: vladimir998

I heard that the All-Ukrainian Orthodox Brotherhood of St. Michael the Archangel (aka AUOBSM) were recently issued decoder rings and 3-D glasses along with pre-synchronized wrist watches.

How come the Commies get all the cool stuff?


7 posted on 03/17/2006 6:31:32 PM PST by sanormal
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To: vladimir998

As His All-Holiness Ecumenical Patriarch Batholomew II said after Divine Liturgy at the Cathedral of St. George in the Phanar on the feast of St. Andrew this year, "Revisiting the past and examining human faults must continue in all directions ... because whoever consents to the misdeeds of another or tolerates them by his silence, shares the responsibility of their author."[15] It is in this exact same spirit that I recount what follows.

The forced reunions with the Orthodox Church began at the Pseudo-Synod of Lviv, capital of Galicia (Halychnya) in Western Ukraine, an area occupied in 1939 by Hitler's Soviet allies and definitively incorporated into the USSR at the end of World War II. Lviv was the metropolitan see of the Ukrainian Greek-Catholic Church to which most of the population of Western Ukraine belonged. A Polish Orthodox parish in Lviv was the only Orthodox Church in the entire region. The Russian Orthodox Church had no representation there at all. Only in the light of these simple facts can the oft-repeated and widely publicized present Russian Orthodox complaints about losing to the Ukrainian Greek-Catholic Church almost all their Churches in the region of Galicia be placed in their proper context. [16]

In the winter of 1944-45 the Soviet regime prohibited all contact of the Ukrainian Catholic hierarchy with its clergy and faithful, and initiated a campaign of forced meetings and propaganda in favor of union with the Russian Orthodox Church. Opponents were arrested and tortured, in April 1945 the entire Greek Catholic hierarchy was imprisoned, and the Soviet regime recognized the "Initiative Group" of three Catholic priests, formed to carry out the government plan, as the sole authority over the Church, instructing them to make lists of all clergy who refused to recognize their authority. Under police protection this group carried out a feverish campaign of propaganda and threats. The NKVD pressured the unwilling clergy to sign a petition for union with Orthodoxy. Those who refused were arrested. At the end of February, thirteen Catholic priests were received into Orthodoxy in Kiev and the two celibate members of the "Initiative Group" were secretly consecrated Orthodox bishops. Their leader, Havriyil Kostel'nyk, a married priest, was elevated to the rank of mitred archpriest, the highest dignity open to the married clergy. [17]

On March 8-10, 1946, a "synod" of 216 terrorized priests and nineteen laypersons, orchestrated in Lviv under the leadership of this group, abolished the Union of Brest (1596). This purported to be a synod of the Ukrainian Catholic Church and to this day the Russian Orthodox Church has claimed it to be such and has steadfastly refused to repudiate either the synod or its own role in the charade. But as the Russian Orthodox Church authorities are well aware, the entire Ukrainian Catholic hierarchy was in prison, and the entire presidium of the synod had in fact already become Orthodox, though this was kept secret until the farce was a fait accompli. The action was followed by massive arrests, interrogations, abuse, trials, banishment and deportations, causing incalculable suffering and death.

Russian Orthodox authorities ever since have defended what was done as a canonically legitimate synod of the Ukrainian Greek-Catholic Church that freely and legitimately abolished of the "forced" Union of Brest, and to this day they have refused to disclaim or condemn it. The Acts of the synod were published in Ukrainian in Lviv in 1946, and in 1982 the Moscow Patriarchate issued bowdlerized (i.e., deliberately doctored) versions in Russian and English for the 45th anniversary of the shameful charade.

The Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church was not destroyed but driven undergound, to re-emerge maimed but still vigorously alive when finally granted freedom in 1989, at which time almost the entire Russian Orthodox Church in Western Ukraine, clergy, parishes, and faithful, re-entered the Catholic Church en masse. Similar forced reunions with the Orthodox Church took place in 1947 in Transcarpathia, 1948 in Romania, and 1950 in Slovakia.

These are the unvarnished facts. This history is important for several reasons. First, it shows the demonstrable falsity of the accusation that the Catholic Church has "reinvented" or "resurrected" a dead and gone "Uniatism," thereby stalling the Orthodox-Catholic ecumenical dialogue. A more nuanced view, one corresponding to the historical facts, leads one to recognize the following realities.

Eastern Catholics were forced into the underground in the 1940's by one of the bitterest and most violent persecutions in Christian history. Although this was done by Stalinist regimes there is abundant and irrefutable evidence that it had the active support and/or collaboration of at least some Orthodox hierarchs and authoritative exponents. Each case must be taken by itself, and justice demands avoiding generalization, but there can be no doubt that ambiguous figures like Patriarch Justinian Marina in Romania, and Archbishop Makarij Oksijuk in Lviv and Transcarpathia, were active participants in these historic violations of human rights. And one of the chief Romanian Orthodox ideologues of modern times, the Orthodox priest and noted theologian Rev. Dumitru Staniloae (d. 5 Oct. 1993), gave wholehearted vocal support for this massive violation of human rights, insisting that the "reunion [of Greek Catholics with the Orthodox Church which took place in 1948] was entirely free and spontaneous.[18] This is not only a patent lie; it is also a denial of the bitter suffering of martyrs. [19]

Thereafter, authoritative Orthodox exponents carried on for forty years a hateful, mendacious campaign concerning every aspect of the life and history of the Greek Catholic Churches, and of their "reintegration with the Mother Church" in the 1940's. As late as 1987, during the Gorbachev era when toadying to the party-line was no longer a matter of life or death, then Moscow Patriarch Pimen gave this mendacious account of these events to the Italian journalist Alceste Santini:

"The anti-Uniate sentiments of the faithful of Galicia and Transcarpathia were strengthened especially during the last war, when the Uniate hierarchy sided with the enemy of the fatherland, the German Nazi invaders. Such collaboration on thepart of the leaders of the Greek-Catholic Church provoked a natural reaction. And so the completion of the process of liberation from the union [with Rome] which was expressed in the Synods of 1946 in Lvov [Lviv] and of 1949 in Mukachevo gave rise to great satisfaction among the believers of Galicia and Transcarpathia." [20]

The business about the Ukrainian Catholic hierarchy and the Nazis is an oft-repeated calumny of the Soviets, who were, let us never forget, Hitler's allies in the 1939 invasion of Poland and Western Ukraine.[21] Of course, after twenty-one years of Soviet rule practically everyone in the USSR initially welcomed the Germans as liberators.[22] And one can only speculate to what "fatherland" Patriarch Pimen claims the Catholic bishops were being disloyal, since before the war Galicia was part of Austria, not the USSR. Furthermore, no synod whatever was held in Mukachevo, as Pimen knew perfectly well; and I have already detailed above the realities of the Lviv "synod."

This is but one of literally dozens of examples I have on file of mendacious public denials of the past from the highest Orthodox ecclesiastical authorities of the Soviet Bloc, a denial rendered even more ludicrous by the fact that even the NKVD agents responsible for orchestrating the drumhead 1946 Lviv synod have in the meantime spilled the beans publicly and in print. [23]

Apart from some religious dissidents condemned by their own Church authorities, and some secular scholars of good-will like Andrej Sakharov, slow and reluctant admissions of truth began to come from some official exponents of the Orthodox Churches only after continuing the mendacity became embarrassingly counterproductive when the world press, at last interesting itself in the issue, began to publish the true story.

Meanwhile the Greek Catholic Churches, some of whose membership (almost all in Galicia, Transcarpathia, and Slovakia; far fewer in Romania where the history and circumstances were quite different), having remained steadfast in their convictions, emerged from the catacombs to which they had been relegated and began to reclaim their heritage and give the lie to the systematic slandering of them and their history over the past fifty years. So there was no "rebirth of Uniatism," just an end to persecution and the shameful conspiracy of silence.

Footnotes

[15] Translated from the French as reported in Irénikon 73 (2000) 112.

[16] Only in the light of the facts can one evaluate fairly, and in context, statements like the one made by Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I, in an interview in Odyssey (August/Sept. 1993) 34: “And in Russia, even if the Uniates owned the Churches before Stalin, today the ratio of Uniates to Orthodox in these places has changed. There are far more Orthodox today than Uniates, so the latter can’t claim these buildings and want to take them back, be they schools or Churches, because where will the Orthodox go? Where will they commune? In the street? This is not Christian.”Regarding the area in question, Galicia in Western Ukraine, where Greek Catholics were and are again the majority, that statement is simply false. And, I might add, where but in the street are many Romanian Greek Catholics, still deprived of their Churches, celebrating liturgies in Romania?

[17] He was assassinated, presumably by his Soviet handlers, on Sept. 20, 1948.

[18] Ronald G. Roberson, CSP, Contemporary Romanian Orthodox Ecclesiology: the Contribution of Dumitru Staniloae and Younger Colleagues (unpublished doctoral dissertation, Pontifical Oriental Institute, Rome 1988) 208-209; cf. 206-212 for a complete discussion, with abundant bibliography and citations from Staniloae’s support of the forced reintegration. Roberson is sympathetic to the figure on whom he chose to write his thesis, which makes the documentation he presents more devastating. On negative aspects of Stanisloae’s career before and after the Communist period, see: Olivier Gillet, Religion et nationalisme. L’idéologie de l’Église orthodoxe roumaine sous le régime communiste (Collection «Spiritualités et pensées libres», Éditions de l’Université de Bruxelles, Bruxelles 1997) 92, 136.

[19] The publication in western, even Catholic journals of laudatory necrologies (e.g., Irénikon 66, 1993; Sobornost 16:1, 1994) of this apologist for one of the 20th century’s great crimes against humanity without a word about this aspect of his career must be branded a moral scandal.

[20] Mille anni di fede in Russia. Pimen, Patriarca di Mosca e di tutte le Russie intervistato da Alceste Santini (Cinisello Balsamo [Milano]: Edizioni Paoline, 1987) 216.

[21] Most recently on the topic, see Werner Maser, Der Wortbruch. Hitler, Stalin und der Zweite Weltkrieg (Munich: Günter Olzog Verlag, 1994).

[22] The matter has been treated with historical objectivity by an author who is by no means an apologist for the Catholic Church: Hansjakob Stehle, “Sheptyts’kyi and the German Regime,”in P.R. Magocsi (ed.), Morality and Reality. The Life and Times of Andrei Sheptyts'kyi (Canadian Institute of Ukrainian Studies, University of Alberta, Edmonton 1989) 125-144. Sheptyts’kyi was the head of the Ukrainian Catholic Church during the war. Stehle says, “Quite unlike the Orthodox Metropolitan Polikarp [of the Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church] who, as late as May 1944, was still praying for Hitler’s victory over the ‘Jewish Communists,’ Metropolitan Sheptyts’kyi grounded his hope exclusively in religious faith”(ibid. 139). For a Jewish witness to Sheptyts’kyj’s efforts to save Lviv’s Jews from the Nazi occupiers, see Rabbi David Kahane, Lvov Ghetto Diary (Amherst: University of Mass. Press, 1990).

[23] See Serge Keleher, Passion ad Resurrection —The Greek Catholic Church in Soviet Ukraine 1939-1989 (Lviv: Stauropegion, 1993), with its rich Appendix of historic documents (pp. 187-298), all from the Soviet period, including the fascinating account, “Here We Are Lord!”, first published in Russian in the well-known Soviet satirical journal Ogonëk N 38 (Sept. 1989) 6-8, giving the true story of the Lviv pseudo-synod of March 8-10, 1946, with the testimony of a sixty-year old colonel of the Soviet security forces, who had been an actual participant in the farce, ironically juxtaposed with contemporary statements from Russian Orthodox Metropolitan (now patriarch of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church —Kiev Patriarchate) Filaret (Denysenko) of Kiev and Galicia (p. 264) repeating the customary lies claiming the “reunion”orchestrated by the 1946 Lviv Pseudo-Council had been “free,”as in the “official”Soviet line on the “reunion.”

See B.R. Bociurkiw, The Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church and the Soviet State (1939-1950) (Edmonton/Toronto: Canadian Institute of Ukrainian Studies Press, 1996) 179-80, esp. note 127, and 238-43; on Filaret, 241.

Among the other documents, many available here in English for the first time, are: The Articles of the Union of Brest; the Decrees of the Eparchial Synod of the Greek-Catholic Church in Petrograd, May 29-31, 1917; the letter to Molotov of Greek-Catholic priests repudiating the activities of the “Initiatory Group”formed in 1945 to instigate the forced “reunion”with the Orthodox Church; the January 15/28, 1950 pastoral letter of the Orthodox bishops in Western Ukraine and Transcarpathia concerning the “consolidation”of the “reunion”with Orthodoxy and the abolition of Catholic or Latin practices from the liturgy; “The Life of the Ukrainian Catholic Church,”a January 1980 document from the underground Church detailing the Church’s continued exisence and the persecution it was undergoing; the August 4, 1987 “Open Letter to His Holiness John Paul II from the bishops, priests, monastics and faithful of the Ukrainian Catholic Church,”publicly announcing their emergence from the underground because of the better conditions under Gorbachev; the April 7, 1989 appeal to Gorbachev; the April 7, 1989 letter of Ukrainian Greek-Catholic Metropolitan Volodymyr (Sterniuk) of Lviv to Ukrainian Greek-Catholic Bishop Isidore (Boretsky) of Toronto and Eastern Canada, and the latter’s response; the August 27, 1989 pastoral letter of the same Metropolitan Volodymyr of Lviv and Halych, the first formal public statement of the metropolitan to his flock in Ukraine; the September 1989 open letter to Gorbachev of leading Ukrainian intellectuals. The rambling account concludes with eyewitness testimony of the Church’s spontaneous rebirth in the Gorbachev period, followed by documents relative to Gorbachev’s meeting with Pope John Paul II on December 1, 1989; the Declaration of the Council for Religious affairs at the Council of Ministers of Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic concerning their intention to resolve positively the problem of the freedom of the Ukrainian Greek-Catholic Church; and, finally, the Statement of the March 17, 1990 Synod of Bishops of the Greek-Catholic Church in Ukraine on the interruption of the negotiations of the “Quadripartite Commission for the Normalization of Relations between the Orthodox and Greek-Catholic Churches in Western Ukraine.”

Excerpted from ANAMNESIS NOT AMNESIA
The Healing of Memories and the Problem of Uniatism
21st Kelly Lecture, University of St. Michael’s College,
Toronto, Canada, 1 December 2000
The Very Rev. Archimandrite Robert F. Taft, S.J.
Vice-Rector of the Pontifical Oriental Institute in Rome

http://www.saintelias.com/ca/theologic/anamnesis.php


8 posted on 03/17/2006 10:08:12 PM PST by TaxachusettsMan
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To: vladimir998

Theft by majority vote is still theft. Who owned the structures prior to the communist seizures?


9 posted on 03/18/2006 7:23:20 AM PST by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:5)
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To: vladimir998

I notice the word "attack" doesn't appear in the original title. How odd...


10 posted on 03/18/2006 8:43:07 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: TaxachusettsMan

Is there any example of Eastern Orthodox resistance of Communism in the former Soviet Bloc?

Did all these Eastern Orthdox Churches become agents of the Soviets?


11 posted on 03/18/2006 8:59:43 AM PST by sanormal
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To: sanormal

Many. Some did, others simply fed the KGB false information.


12 posted on 03/18/2006 10:31:39 AM PST by pravknight (Christos Regnat, Christos Imperat, Christus Vincit)
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To: FormerLib

You're right, the word "attack" does not appear in the article. It is clearly appropriate, however.


13 posted on 03/18/2006 10:31:53 AM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: sanormal; Kolokotronis; The_Reader_David
Is there any example of Eastern Orthodox resistance of Communism in the former Soviet Bloc?

30,000 martyred clergy enough of an example for you?

14 posted on 03/18/2006 4:17:57 PM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: FormerLib

I wasn't being glib. I'm really interested in Eastern Orthodox resistance to the Soviets after Stalin changed his strategy to coopt the Churches rather than eliminate them.

Please educate me.


15 posted on 03/18/2006 5:05:21 PM PST by sanormal
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To: sanormal
I'm really interested in Eastern Orthodox resistance to the Soviets after Stalin changed his strategy to coopt the Churches rather than eliminate them.

Perhaps you can tell me why it appears you are so quick to dismiss their resistance before then?

16 posted on 03/18/2006 5:20:48 PM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: sanormal

There was little or no open resistance. First, they had to resist a bloody madman. Not too many were willing to do anything all that open gainst Stalin. Second, Orthodox Christians rarely resist anything done by a government because they are trained to be subservient to it even when it is wrong. They will never admit this, of course, but it is the result of caesaropapism.


17 posted on 03/19/2006 9:09:37 AM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: sanormal
I wasn't being glib. I'm really interested in Eastern Orthodox resistance to the Soviets after Stalin changed his strategy to coopt the Churches rather than eliminate them.

Not much to it. Most of these priests guys had a KGB contact.

18 posted on 03/19/2006 10:09:57 AM PST by Mazepa
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To: FormerLib
Stalin associated the Eastern Orthodox Churches with Czarist powers and, therefore, tried to eliminate them. I recognize that many tens of thousands were martyred during this reign of destruction.

Stalin realized that Christian Churches could be easily co-opted as agents of the Communist Party. He accomplished this aim with facility with Eastern Orthodox Churches. Indeed, some Eastern Orthodox Churches remain steadfast in this agency.

He was never able to accomplish this aim with Roman or Eastern Catholic Churches.

Indeed, the Roman and Eastern Catholic Churches were instrumental in the peaceful overthrow of Communism in Central and Eastern Europe.
19 posted on 03/19/2006 10:44:47 AM PST by sanormal
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To: Alex Murphy
Re: the story

The immediate thing that the article should have pointed out for the unititiated is that this disagreement is NOT a case of a conflict between Orthodox and the Catholics, but between one Orthodox Church- Moscow Patriarchate (known simply as the Russian Orthodox Church) and the Greek Catholics. This Russian Church is a bunch of xenophobic, anti-western and anti-everything loudmouths who always stir trouble. Ukraine's other Orthodox Church, UOC- Kyiv Patriarchate didn't have a single row with Greek Catholics.
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Theft by majority vote is still theft. Who owned the structures prior to the communist seizures?

Greek Catholics of course. There hasn't been a single Russian church in Galicia until Stalin came.

I must acknowledge (if it's not yet obvious to you), that i'm pretty biased against the UOC-MP. It's hard to think otherwise after seeing these so-called 'holy men', these Russian priests, running with sticks and throwing eggs at their opponents. I myself am from Bukovyna, which unlike Galicia (Greek Catholics) is of the Othodox tradition. Churches of Bukovyna were built when the region was in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and in the 19th cent. acquired its own metropolitan. Russia and its church were absolutely foreign as the region has never in it's existance been under Russians. And so, in 1940, Papa Stalin brought this Russian Church to Bukovyna. Thus Bukovynian long standing independent Orthodox tradition was destroyed and it became just another part of the ROC.

Since the collapse of the USSR, ROC has not retreated from Ukraine, and in Bukovyna it continues to possess most churches. Currently the conflict here is between the independent truly Ukrainian Orthodox Church- Kyiv patriarchate and the UOC-MP (the Russians).

20 posted on 03/19/2006 11:12:17 AM PST by Mazepa
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