Posted on 01/10/2006 10:06:56 AM PST by Terriergal
LAKE FOREST, Calif. - This week, it was the Rose Bowl players' breakfast. This month, it will be the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. Then the President's prayer breakfast in Washington, followed by an entertainment industry conference in Los Angeles.
Rick Warren, the Southern Baptist preacher's son from tiny Redwood Valley, Calif., is much in demand these days.
The founding pastor of the Saddleback mega-church south of Los Angeles and the author of the best-selling The Purpose Driven Life, Warren is perhaps the most influential evangelical Christian in America.
With his book - the best-selling hardback nonfiction book in the nation - and Purpose-Driven Life videos and 40-day Bible study plans, Warren has created an unparalleled international network of millions of individuals and 400,000 churches, spanning faiths and denominations.
Now he wants to use his growing influence - and wealth - for an ambitious global attack on poverty, AIDS, illiteracy and disease.
"The New Testament says the church is the body of Christ, but for the last 100 years, the hands and feet have been amputated, and the church has just been a mouth. And mostly, it's been known for what it's against," Warren said during a break between services at his sprawling Orange County church campus.
"I'm so tired of Christians being known for what they're against."
Fresh from preaching to 38,000 congregants during Christmas week services, Warren was looking to the future by invoking the past.
"One of my goals is to take evangelicals back a century, to the 19th century," said Warren, 51, shifting painfully in his chair because of a back sprain suffered during an all-terrain-vehicle romp with his 20-year-old son, Matthew. "That was a time of muscular Christianity that cared about every aspect of life."
Not just personal salvation, but social action. Abolishing slavery. Ending child labor. Winning the right for women to vote.
It's time for modern evangelicals to trade words for deeds and get similarly involved, Warren contends.
At the end of his second sermon last Sunday, he reminded his largely affluent Orange County audience: "Life is not about having more and getting more. It's about serving God and serving others."
That, simply put, is his message. Give your life to God, help others, spread the word. It is the same message that Christians have been preaching for 2,000 years. Warren has updated the language, added catchphrases and five-step guides, but he readily admits "there is not a new idea in that book."
The Purpose Driven Life has sold more than 24 million English-language copies since 2002, with millions more in other languages. It has been popular with Lutherans, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, with pastors and priests using it as a Bible-study handbook.
The book figured prominently in a hostage drama in Georgia last March. Ashley Smith, held by alleged Atlanta courthouse killer Brian Nichols, said he released her after she gave him methamphetamine and read to him from the book.
Warren "is able to cast the Christian story so people can hear it in fresh ways," said Donald E. Miller, director of the Center for Religion and Civic Culture at the University of Southern California. He is "a very important figure in evangelical Christianity," part of a "trend we'll see more of," Miller said, citing Warren's independence, social activism, informality and ability to reach across racial and national lines.
"The Gen X-ers are sick and tired of flash and hype and marketing," Miller said. "The soft sell of a Rick Warren is far more attractive to them than a highly stylized TV presentation of the Christian message."
Among evangelicals, Warren is more influential than better-known and more-divisive figures such as religious broadcasters Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell or radio psychologist James Dobson, and is often seen as the heir to the Rev. Billy Graham as "America's pastor."
Scott L. Thumma, a professor of the sociology of religion at Hartford Seminary and the author of a forthcoming book on mega-churches, said polls of church leaders often put Warren in first or second place among most-influential evangelical leaders.
"And one of the interesting things is that he crosses boundaries... . He's not just respected by the evangelical world but by many outside that world," Thumma said.
In North Philadelphia, the Rev. Herbert Lusk, the former Philadelphia Eagles running back who is pastor of the Greater Exodus Baptist Church and a prominent supporter of President Bush, brought Warren to town in November to raise money for aid to Africa. Lusk also tutored many of the Eagles' players and coaches in the Purpose-Driven Life program last year.
Lusk said Warren "took the principles that we preach about every Sunday and packaged them in a way that are palatable for Christians and non-Christians."
"The guy is a preacher's preacher... . He's the leading evangelical in the world, unquestionably," Lusk said.
Broadly defined, evangelicals are Christians who have had a personal or "born-again" religious conversion, believe the Bible is the word of God, and believe in spreading their faith. (The term comes from Greek; to "evangelize" means to preach the gospel.) The term is typically applied to Protestants.
Millions of Americans fit the definition, although estimates vary on exactly how many. Forty-two percent of Americans described themselves as evangelical Christians in a Gallup poll in April, while 22 percent said they met all three measures in a Gallup survey in May. The National Association of Evangelicals says about 25 percent of adult Americans are evangelicals.
Evangelicals are often equated with fundamentalists or the religious right, which annoys Warren. Although he's politically conservative - opposing abortion and gay marriage and supporting the death penalty - he pushes a much broader agenda and disdains both politics and fundamentalism.
Warren is a friend of President Bush and a repeat visitor to the White House. But he also met for several hours at Saddleback last month with Sen. John Kerry, the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee, to discuss issues such as poverty and the environment.
"I'm worried that evangelicals be identified too much with one party or the other. When that happens, you lose your prophetic role of speaking truth to power," Warren said. "And you have to defend stupid things that leaders do."
"Politics is always downstream from culture. I place less confidence in it than a lot of folks. I don't think that's the answer... . Politics is not the right tool to change the culture."
With his goatee and penchant for Hawaiian shirts and colloquial language, Warren embodies a laid-back approach to worship that resonates with Americans who have little allegiance to formal denominations or rituals.
His 120-acre hilltop campus, with palm trees, waterfall and meandering brook, is a kind of religious theme park, where worshipers meet in different buildings to suit their musical preferences, while watching simultaneous video feeds of Warren preaching at the main worship center.
Warren's father and grandfather and great-grandfather were all preachers. He followed their path by starting Saddleback in 1980 with his wife, Kay, and a congregation of seven. His ministry prospered in booming Orange County, as Warren went door-to-door, asking residents what they'd like in a church. For 15 years, he and his growing flock were nomads, meeting in schools, homes and other buildings. Construction started on the current campus in 1995, and Warren now has 80,000 names on Saddleback's rolls. Saddleback is a a Southern Baptist church, but it doesn't advertise the fact.
As the money has rolled in from his book, Warren said he has given most of the millions to the church and the three social-service foundations he has established. He stopped taking his $110,000 annual salary and repaid the church for his 25 years of salary since its founding. He and his wife became "reverse tithers," he said, keeping 10 percent of their income and giving away the rest, including $13 million in 2004.
This month, he is leading a trip to Rwanda, to train pastors and distribute medicine and money to battle AIDS and other diseases. It's part of what he calls his global PEACE plan (Plant a church, Equip leaders, Assist the poor, Care for the sick, Educate the next generation).
Last month, he launched the first major evangelical effort to battle AIDS, convening a three-day conference at Saddleback to mobilize American Christians to help AIDS victims and raise money to fight the disease. Part of the battle for Warren is overcoming resistance from evangelicals who view AIDS as strictly a gay disease or even as divine retribution for immoral behavior.
Warren said he sees religious institutions as more powerful forces than governments for solving the world's problems.
"I would trust any imam or priest or rabbi to know what is going on in a community before I would any government agency."
But, powerful as churches can be in working for the powerless, they can't succeed without governments and nongovernmental organizations, Warren said.
Warren predicts that fundamentalism, of all varieties, will be "one of the big enemies of the 21st century."
"Muslim fundamentalism, Christian fundamentalism, Jewish fundamentalism, secular fundamentalism - they're all motivated by fear. Fear of each other."
ONLINE EXTRA
To read the rest of the series on the evangelical movement by Paul Nussbaum, visit http://go.philly.com/religion
Yep, yep, yep. Ol' Rick has mesmerized a lot of folks and the "fruit" of his seminars is destroying churches everywhere.
These QUOTES should give every Christian pause.
I think this wasn't explained directly. The probable explantion is early in the article when he says he prefers 19th century Christianity to 20th century Christianity because 20th was into talking and not acting.
Maybe that's what's meant.
I'm not to excited about Warren either, but I think what Warren is trying to get at when he calls fundamentalists an enemy of the 21st century is that he is referring to the hillbilly type mentality of Christians that exist out there in large numbers. People who go to church because that's the thing to do, people who believe certain things because that's what've they've been taught to believe without ever questioning whether it is the gospel truth or not. People who really don't think though things in life, they just live by there emotions and move with the crowd.
I'm not sure if you're agreeing with M-the-WD or being sarcastic. I wasn't impressed by those quotes. Those quotes do give me pause.
Oh dear. I didn't mean to leave any doubt. I am totally agreeing. The quotes trouble me deeply. Warren's philosphy of self is poisoning my own church right now. So far our Pastor is standing strong but he and the rest of we "resisters" are in a real battle.
Here another anti-fundie thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1555483/posts
from Jimmy Carter
The quote you used was not mine??
I was "in charge" of his church growth program at a former church, I found it ungodly and carnal .
It relies on the ways of man not God to build the church.
That is simply my observation.
Correct. It was not your quote. It was from the article.
I'm pretty much in favor of any moral program that gets the gospel out to others or gets others in to hear the gospel.
This "soft sell of a Rick Warren" is just another form of the same "flash and hype and marketing" that the article claims the Gen X-ers are sick and tired of. I don't care whether it's Rick, Saddleback, or his publisher that's pushing these sorts of "soft sell" press releases, it's just more flash and hype and marketing.
I think we have Rick Warren getting bold enough to expose his true hatred of traditional Christianity.
Yeah I heard about "i just wanted more land" Jabez author getting tired of the people who didn't share his visions of grandeur.
EXACTLY !!!! It's all Rick and his seeker sensitive gimmicks.....no Holy Spirit.
It saddens me to see how many people have fallen in line behind him.
There are so many things he has said that should send up red flags, but it seems he has dazzled many away from discernment.
Warren said he sees religious institutions as more powerful forces than governments for solving the world's problems.
Ok...
"I would trust any imam or priest or rabbi to know what is going on in a community before I would any government agency."
OK...How about Bin Laden?
But, powerful as churches can be in working for the powerless, they can't succeed without governments and nongovernmental organizations, Warren said.
He just disavowed the entire New Testament. Which is it? He's talking out of both sides of his mouth. First churches are more powerful than Government, then they aren't.
He's toeing the Jim Wallis line, can't you see that?
Wow! Saving that one to archives for sure.
Such a stunning mis-use of scripture.
Rick Warren may be headed down the same road in Rwanda, but I don't know enough about his program there to say. His Global P.E.A.C.E. plan sounds like it runs along the same lines as Wilkinson's big visions for "saving" the world. I hate to tell these guys, but the world already has a Savior, and His name isn't Rick or Bruce or Bono.
It's a keeper for sure. I always have it handy along with a whole bunch of other revealing truths about Warren.
I've been in this war for a long while now. Some members of our church are working night and day to make us Purpose Driven and thankfully they have not succeeded. However they have not given up and it has ripped at the very core of relationships in the congregation. This apostasy is very destructive.
Yikes !!!! It was an error that part of my sentence went into the tagline on post #28. Sorry.................
The money is irrelevant to me. It's his corrupt teaching which he is passing on that is my concern.
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