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To: kosta50
The whole Protestant idea of sola scriptura emphasizes personal interpretation as the ultimate avenue to the correct interpretation of the Scripture.

Actually the idea behind sola scriptura is simply that the word of God is contained within the scriptures and that the scriptures are superior to any man's interpretation of them. Where a tradition is in clear conflict with the revealed word of God, the tradition must be rejected.

Is that not the ultimate in arrogance and pride and self-love?

The ultimate in arrogance and pride and self love is in believing that your own efforts must be added to the sacrifice of Christ in order to secure your salvation; that Christ's sacrifice was insufficient and that it is only through your own efforts that you secure your own salvation.

922 posted on 01/10/2006 8:24:25 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
Actually the idea behind sola scriptura is simply that the word of God is contained within the scriptures and that the scriptures are superior to any man's interpretation of them. Where a tradition is in clear conflict with the revealed word of God, the tradition must be rejected.

Well, since you bring this up, I thought I'd comment, because it seems quite obvious to me and a number of people find Sola Scriptura self-refuting.

The Scriptures in of themselves are subject to interpretation. EVERY WORD! Thus, how can a book provide ultimate authority for Christians - especially considering that it is chronologically and theologically preceded by the Church? How can we say the Scripture is the ultimate authority for us, then, if the entire book is subject to interpretation? Interpretation makes the book meaningful!

The ultimate in arrogance and pride and self love is in believing that your own efforts must be added to the sacrifice of Christ in order to secure your salvation;

When you find someone who believes that, let me know, so we can both address that person...

Regards

924 posted on 01/10/2006 9:37:36 AM PST by jo kus
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To: P-Marlowe
The ultimate in arrogance and pride and self love is in believing that your own efforts must be added to the sacrifice of Christ in order to secure your salvation; that Christ's sacrifice was insufficient and that it is only through your own efforts that you secure your own salvation.

Again you misunderstand: we do not say or believe that the Christ's sacrifice was insufficient in any way. We DO say that it is sufficient to secure ALL of mankind's salvation. The only thing God asks is for us to accept that -- and THAT is a hard thing for man to do.
957 posted on 01/10/2006 7:08:17 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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To: P-Marlowe
the scriptures are superior to any man's interpretation of them.

True -- then that negates your idea of individual interpretation. The Church does not consist of just one man interpreting the scriptures with the Help of the Holy Spirit, but of holy men & women through the centuries learning through and from the Holy Spirit.
959 posted on 01/10/2006 7:15:52 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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