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To: Cronos
As per what you say, only God knows that, so let's make that supposition that no one here on this forum, either you or me or anyone else is part of your "elect".

I respectfully disagree. I think I have said that only God can know the salvation status of people in general, but that each individual person can be sure of his/her own salvation status in addition to God knowing. I can't be perfectly certain about you, although you might convince me to be 99% sure, and you can't be certain about me. However, we can be certain for ourselves about our own status. Therefore, and I hate to be a pain, but I must in all honesty say that I cannot join your supposition, and I must further declare that I am, indeed, a member of God's elect.

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897 posted on 01/10/2006 1:29:56 AM PST by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper
I respectfully disagree. I think I have said that only God can know the salvation status of people in general, but that each individual person can be sure of his/her own salvation status in addition to God knowing.

I can't be perfectly certain about you, although you might convince me to be 99% sure, and you can't be certain about me.

However, we can be certain for ourselves about our own status


I agree that God KNOWS, but can each individual KNOW? I don't think so. Can the individual be close to certain? Yes, in the grace of God. But only God KNOWS

I must further declare that I am, indeed, a member of God's elect.

I would pray and hope that it IS true. I would also say that God's elect was everyone but the ones who gain it are those who choose and perhaps you have.
901 posted on 01/10/2006 2:51:14 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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