[jo kus]

Works don't save. Just as baptism doesn't save. Just as "The Church" doesn't save. Only Christ saves.

Christ chose to save us through the above means. God saves us using many different instruments.

Regards

[ItsOurTimeNow]

>>Christ chose to save us<<

I wouldn't label baptism as a means - it's an ordinance, and meant to take place AFTER someone has been regenerated by the Spirit, as a public confession of faith.

The means that God uses will involve His Word, so while people may be saved while AT church, in hearing the message, it's dishonest to say that the church is what saves.

[P-Marlowe]

Christ chose to save us through the above means. God saves us using many different instruments.

No, Christ chose to save you by grace alone through faith alone. Show me anywhere in the Bible where it says you are saved through any other means or any other instrument.