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To: Forest Keeper
Me: So, then, even the "elect" can sin.

You: Sure, "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God". This includes the elect.

So then, the "elect" can sin as much as they want, knowing that they are already ordained to be saved?
694 posted on 01/08/2006 11:34:10 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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To: Cronos; Forest Keeper
So then, the "elect" can sin as much as they want, knowing that they are already ordained to be saved?

The answers are all in Scripture. This is how Paul anticipates your question.

"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also [in the likeness] of [his] resurrection:

Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him], that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord." -- Romans 6:1-11.


696 posted on 01/08/2006 11:55:11 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (an ambassador in bonds)
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To: Cronos
So then, the "elect" can sin as much as they want, knowing that they are already ordained to be saved?

Adding to 692, the new nature that God gives to the elect will not prompt that person to sin as much as they want. It is truly a new nature. The old is gone, the new has come. Some sin still happens, but not "enough" to lose salvation as per God's promise to the elect.

697 posted on 01/09/2006 12:01:01 AM PST by Forest Keeper
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