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To: Forest Keeper
I meant that these instincts are in me and I do not internally need to verify them with scripture. Just like I don't need to read the car manual to make turns and shift gears. Of course, if need be I could verify these instincts with scripture, but there is rarely a need.

5 For there is one God, and one mediator of God and men, the man Christ Jesus: 6 Who gave himself a redemption for all, a testimony in due times

(1 Timothy 2)

Once again, your prooftexting is out of context. Surely Our Lady did not gave herself in redemption, nor in testomony. I know that. She mediates to Christ Who mediates to God the Father. And not she alone, I have attachment to many saints; I spoke of my attachment to St. Francis for example on this thread. I ask them to pray for me and I pray for others too. This is how the Communion of Saints operates.

scripture just needs to be read in light of this Tradition in order to know what it means. Tradition does not appear to depend on scripture because so much of it is not in scripture. However, the reverse does seem to be true, scriptural interpretation does appear to depend on Tradition because the two must match.

Yes. Of course.

4,519 posted on 04/10/2006 4:18:40 PM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex
[On 1 Timothy 2:5] Once again, your prooftexting is out of context. Surely Our Lady did not gave herself in redemption, nor in testimony. I know that. She mediates to Christ Who mediates to God the Father. And not she alone, I have attachment to many saints; I spoke of my attachment to St. Francis for example on this thread. I ask them to pray for me and I pray for others too. This is how the Communion of Saints operates.

Yes, my prooftexting is completely out of context with extra-scriptural tradition. So when the verse says "one mediator of God and men" it doesn't mean there is only one mediator between God and men at all, it means that there is only one FINAL mediator to God. The Catholic view appears to be that this verse means that in between men and God there are thousands of mediators who all report to Christ, who then passes along the messages to God the Father. I have to admit, not in a million years would I have come to that conclusion by just reading the words in only the context of other scripture.

4,596 posted on 04/11/2006 4:17:18 PM PDT by Forest Keeper
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