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To: jo kus; Forest Keeper
The effect is the same

Yes it is, Jo. I was merely pointing to a different way of looking at sin in our traditions, but the Western Chruch understand sin the same way as we do. I would say the Latin expression of feeling abandoned by God is a profoundly human experience (our tendency is to blame someone else, always). The Orthodox take is Patristic and therefore not something an individual will automatically understand.

I am always amazed when I read that Jesus experienced being abandoned by the Father before He expired. It shows that He was fully Human as well.

You'll be happy to know that since Vatican 2, the Catholic Church has been moving away from that

The Vatican has steadily been moving back to Patristic ways and nothing makes me happier, believe me.

2,756 posted on 02/17/2006 3:16:09 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
The Vatican has steadily been moving back to Patristic ways and nothing makes me happier, believe me.

You aren't the only one!

Brother in Christ

2,761 posted on 02/17/2006 3:50:49 PM PST by jo kus
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To: STD; x5452
FYI -- The Vatican has steadily been moving back to Patristic ways.

While no one denies that there are differences, we ARE getting closer, so rejoice!
2,834 posted on 02/19/2006 11:47:44 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia! Ultra-Catholic)
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