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To: kosta50; HarleyD
Trumping His own will would be unthinkable in a perfect union of two natures in one Person of our Savior.

So, then the nature of a man and the divine nature are equal in your eyes?

FK: "Also, the concept of fear involves doubt and uncertainty. I don't believe that Jesus had these characteristics."

"My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" This is the most chilling moment in the entire Gospel. It is here that He takes on the sin of the hole world and finds Himself separated from His own essence.

I know this is a tricky area and Jesus did take on all of our sins, but I don't think it's a slam dunk that He was expressing fear in your quote. When you are in pain and express fear in the moment, do you usually do so by quoting scripture?:

Ps. 22:1 : "1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me, so far from the words of my groaning?"

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Or do you deny that He actually died?

No, Jesus did not actually die. He was only wounded. His friends took Him away and healed Him. Then, they wrapped Him up in a burial shroud, gave Him a straw to breathe through, an IV for nourishment, and buried Him for three days. On the third day, Jesus simply rolled back the two ton stone from the inside (Jesus worked out.). The Roman guards freaked and split, knowing there would be no consequences for them leaving their posts. The rest is history.

2,465 posted on 02/09/2006 9:49:57 PM PST by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper
No, Jesus did not actually die. He was only wounded. His friends took Him away and healed Him. Then, they wrapped Him up in a burial shroud, gave Him a straw to breathe through, an IV for nourishment, and buried Him for three days. On the third day, Jesus simply rolled back the two ton stone from the inside (Jesus worked out.). The Roman guards freaked and split, knowing there would be no consequences for them leaving their posts. The rest is history.

I'm guessing that is sarcasm. If not, then that is what the Muslimbs believe in as well...
2,466 posted on 02/09/2006 10:02:01 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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To: Forest Keeper; Cronos; Kolokotronis; annalex; jo kus; HarleyD
So, then the nature of a man and the divine nature are equal in your eyes?

Of course not! But God created man in His image and likeness so that he may be in perfect communion with God. By God's Design, man's nature is in perfect harmony with God's nature. By man's fall (from grace), it is no longer so.

Man is, therefore "fully" man when he is in perfect communion with God (his original created state). All other conditions affecting our nature lessen our humanity and are unnatural. As we lose the likeness of God through sin, we become less human.

Our Lord Jesus Christ personifies the seamless and perfect existence between the Divine and human. "Become, therefore, perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect." As we achieve perfection (theosis), we partake ever more in God's perfection and reflect His image and likeness.

This is why Jesus Christ is a perfect God and a perfect Man in one Person, in perfect harmony, yet each fully distinct, and consequently two separate by harmonized wills.

That's why our Lord was able to resist evil and temptations of satan, even though His human nature was subject to such temptations.

2,486 posted on 02/10/2006 2:42:03 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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