[HarleyD]

Yes, and God was chasing after him, telling him, "Obey me". God could have simply controlled Jonah's mind -- which is the case of pre-destination you believe in.

God DID control Jonah's mind via his circumstances. He made him obedient didn't He? If Jonah had free will God would have let him do what he wanted. Isn't, after all, the definition of "free will".

[kosta50]

God DID control Jonah's mind via his circumstances. He made him obedient didn't He? If Jonah had free will God would have let him do what he wanted. Isn't, after all, the definition of "free will"

Are you serious, or are you insulting everyone on this forum?

Free will is the ability to make free choices; to make a decision not based on necessity, as animals do; to decide based on intellect. Forced decisions are not free, HD.

If you want to go one way and I put a gun to your head and say "no, the other way," and you change your mind, is that a free decision of a forced decision?

[Cronos]

God DID control Jonah's mind via his circumstances. He made him obedient didn't He? If Jonah had free will God would have let him do what he wanted. Isn't, after all, the definition of "free will".

Now you're just going around in circles. Your proof that there is no "free will" is that no-one of the "elect" can do anything that God has not already written down. Here, Jonah does that. God chases him, does not take over his mind.

This is a prime example of free will.