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To: Campion; Alex Murphy
Ironically, the Catholic God seems more sovereign to me than the Calvinist one, because the Catholic God is free to make creatures who can choose on their own to say "no".

Who says the "Calvinist" God isn't free to create any creatures He so chooses to do whatever He chooses? Maybe the Calvinist God loves us so much that since He already knows what we would choose left to our own devices, He chooses to save the elect anyway.

148 posted on 01/02/2006 9:47:54 PM PST by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper
He chooses to save the elect anyway.

Would that mean that God chooses to damn people from before they were born? That people who are among the "elect" can do what they please as they are the chosen? That the people who are among "the elect" can then become say Muslimes and they are still among the "elect"? That there is no need to spread God's word as, if there are the "elect", they will come to Christ without the members of The Church helping out?
367 posted on 01/05/2006 12:01:49 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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