[Cronos]

Pardon me if I misunderstand, but I get the clear impression from these guys, who are all too happy to diss the Calvinists, but do you get the idea from listening to them that only Catholics are among the elect? Of course, I'm just a dumb little old read the bible guy, maybe I'm imagining it.

Missa zeeba neigha, youse are wrong. We think the "elect" are all of God's people in the sense that God wants ALL of humanity to be saved. Do you believe that God loves and wants ALL of humanity to be saved? Well, we do.

Secondly, we've had posters here from the Orthodox tradition and a Lutheran who agreed with the Church's point of view, so it's not really a Catholic-only fest. I think the only Catholics here are jo kus, Dion, NYer, annalex and me. Kolokotronis and Kosta are Orthodox while red's a Lutheran. I think you, P-Marlowe and Forest Keeper are Baptists (am I correct?) and Harley is, I guess a Calvinist?

[HarleyD]

I think you, P-Marlowe and Forest Keeper are Baptists (am I correct?) and Harley is, I guess a Calvinist?

There are either synergists (man cooperates in salvation) or monergists (God saves man alone). Catholics, Orthodox and a good many Protestants in many denominations today are synergists. I am a monergist. If I had to classify my denomination I would place myself with the monergistic Reformed Baptists.

[zeeba neighba]

We think the "elect" are all of God's people in the sense that God wants ALL of humanity to be saved. Do you believe that God loves and wants ALL of humanity to be saved? Well, we do.

Absolutely not. He hates a whole bunch of them.