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To: zeeba neighba
While you're at it, quote the bible verses that say those who are diligent to study the Word and who rely on Christ alone for their salvation, are heretics.

When you show me where any defender of free will on this thread called those who study the Word diligently and rely on Christ heretics, I'll quote you their verses. But none of us ever said that and for you to imply that we claim that is insulting and dishonest.

We take issue with your interpretion of verses. We applaud your trust in Christ and diligent study. We just find the conclusions you draw from your diligent study unpersuasive and we find being accused of not diligently studying the Scriptures insulting. May you be blessed for trusting Christ. May you also discover better methods of interpreting Scripture.

Your argument here is once more an ad hominem. I wouldn't call you a heretic. Heresy comes from a Greek word that means deliberate, knowing, persistent choice.

You certainly are persistent. But I'm not sure that you knowingly make your interpretive choices. You seem incapable of evaluating arguments and making substantive responses, so you resort to ad hominems. Your best hope is to stay invincibly ignorant so you can't be a heretic. Some of those who have taught you, however, might indeed know what they are doing and they'll have to answer for that.

And if I were you, I'd stay away from these threads because after you've been presented with alternative Scripture interpretation for the thousandth time and chosen not to have an open mind toward it, it's just possible God will hold you accountable for your refusal to know. You should quit while you are ahead--stay within your invincible ignorance and talk only to your fellow invincibly ignorant.

And that's not an ad hominem. It's a reasoned assessment of the strategy of argumentation, or lack thereof, that you pursued.

Enjoy your pity party. "Oh, poor me, those mean old Catholics call us heretics and all we ever did was diligently study Scripture and rely on Christ. Oh how mean they are."

1,183 posted on 01/12/2006 1:04:01 PM PST by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis

lol. You really are quite amusing.


1,186 posted on 01/12/2006 1:06:25 PM PST by zeeba neighba
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis; zeeba neighba; HarleyD; RnMomof7; Dahlseide; Gamecock; ItsOurTimeNow; ...
When you show me where any defender of free will on this thread called those who study the Word diligently and rely on Christ heretics, I'll quote you their verses. But none of us ever said that and for you to imply that we claim that is insulting and dishonest.

The insult was on the part of those who called fellow FR Christians "heretics," and the dishonesty may be yours, but perhaps you just missed the post since you were not pinged.

The remarks were made yesterday by Kolokotronis in post #1053:

"I have sat this one out for a couple of days now, not only because I have been busy but because so much of this thread seems to be contesting with those whom our forefathers in The Faith would, without qualm, call heretics. You all remember the words of +John Chrysostomos in his Homily VI on Titus:..."

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1,189 posted on 01/12/2006 2:32:08 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (an ambassador in bonds)
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