HD-“Are you saying God runs the universe based upon OUR determined will”
Cronos-“No, that's not what we are saying Harley, you're willfully distorting our words.....”
It would be far more helpful if instead of saying that I’m “willfully distorting your position” that you simply post the clarification and where I have erred. It would require just about as many words. I still see no other interpretation than what I have stated from your perspective. I will say:
is a rather interesting statement from which my comments are based. There are only two ways to read this statement. If one were to read it with the emphasis in different places you come up with entirely two different meanings. For example, if I were to say:
I would come up with the Calvinist view of things. Everything is decreed by God, fixed and unchangeable including our salvation. On the other hand if I were to say:
Then I would have the Arminian perspective that would say what we do influences God’s behavior.
There are only two ways to interpret this. One with the emphasis on God's work and one with the emphasis on our work. I don’t think I distorted anything. If you could provide me with a third alternative I'd love to hear it.