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To: HarleyD
Yup, that's the part. As you can see, bishop Minatios did not say anything St. Augustine did not say.

You mean it depend on how nice a person is going to be whether God will love him.

Nope, I don't mean that, nor did the bishop. God loves everyone, so those who love him back, and those who reject him both get what they want.

1,041 posted on 01/11/2006 1:35:53 PM PST by annalex
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To: annalex
Yup, that's the part. As you can see, bishop Minatios did not say anything St. Augustine did not say.

Honestly, in making such a statement do you even understand what Augustine is saying?

These are two distinct views. Augustine believes everything comes from God including a person’s obedient will. Augustine plains says that God chooses man's faith. Bishop Minatios, with all due respect, is spouting the Pelagius heresy that believe man’s goodness is what saves him. Augustine would bop you on the head with his cane if he heard you say that about him.
1,049 posted on 01/11/2006 3:26:03 PM PST by HarleyD ("No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him..." John 6:44)
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