Luther and Erasmus: The Controversy Concerning the Bondage of the Will

Protestant Reformed Theological Journal ^ | April 1999 | Garrett J. Eriks

[Full Court]

Don't leave us in suspense. Make your case.

If he was speaking to a plural body he would of said YE, not HE.

[Full Court]

Your quote-o-rama does not speak to the question of Mary, dear.

During my bible study this morning in Romans, I came across this verse.

Romans 8:34
 Who is he that condemneth?
It is Christ that died, yea rather,
that is risen again,
who is even at the right hand of God,
who also maketh intercession for us.

So I did a quick word study of intercession.

The five verses in the NT which use the word speak only to Christ and the Holy Spirit making intercession for us.

[Full Court]

Infant baptism reaffirms God's covenant family structure between the child and God,

Now you got a little heresy going there sister!!

Baptism is for believers only!!!

[Full Court]

Baptism is one Sacrament that is recognized by all Christian assemblies as an absolute necessity to be Christian.

Not this born again Bible believer.

[Full Court]

Christ did not say baptize only those who believe.

Acts 8:36  And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

37  And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

[Full Court]

(When last I was on FR, someone pinged me about half a dozen times to tell me that "Jesus and Mary had sex." According to this person, she knew this because, "God said so."

I think that was me. And I know that Joseph and Mary had sex because the Bible says so.

Matthew 1:24  Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:

25  And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

[Full Court]

Acts 18:8 : Crispus, the synagogue ruler, and his entire household believed in the Lord; and many of the Corinthians who heard him believed and were baptized Entire household includes children/infants.

A man old enough to be the ruler of the synagogue wouldn't have infants!!!!

[Full Court]

If you have to ask, then you are not in it. There is only one Church.,p> You made the claim, back it up!

[1000 silverlings]

Why did Jesus choose the 12?

They are to judge the 12 tribes of Israel .

[1000 silverlings]

You don't believe that it was actually the Prophet Samuel who the witch of Endor called up, do you?

Why would I not? Scripture clearly says "Samuel". If you want to say it was a demon or something show scripture to confirm it please, thanks.

[1000 silverlings]

That does sound really wonderful.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

LOL. Thankfully, baptism is not a salvation issue and we can agree to disagree on that one. 8~)

If you're ever so inclined, I'd be interested in your thoughts on the link I offered by Calvin (maybe on another thread.) I find those arguments from Scripture compelling. I loved the moments our children were baptized into the covenant family of God which affirms that one is a child of God from birth. In fact, from way before birth -- from before the foundation of the world.

BTW, your baby is beautiful. Aren't they the best thing in the whole world?

[1000 silverlings]

Now you got a little heresy going there sister!! Baptism is for believers only!!!

lol

[Dr. Eckleburg]

FK: I say that God picked His elect for certain from before the foundation of the world

KOSTA: That would imply the pre-existance of souls, which is a Gnostic belief -- of which St. Paul has been suspect, at least in his earlier beliefs.

No, that more than implies, that declares that God ordains from eternity who are His and whom He will save by His grace through giving faith in Jesus Christ.

"According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will" -- Ephesians 1:4-5

"For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." -- Ephesians 2:10

And this is at least the second time on this forum you've maligned Paul as some kind of "gnostic."

I guess when you relegate Scripture to second place, especially when that Scripture doesn't fit your Platonic perspectives, it's easier to toss claims of gnosticism onto the head of perhaps the greatest Apostle God created.

Thankfully, he surmounted worse insults in preaching the word of God.

And thus, by the grace of God, Paul turned West.

[monkfan]

1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

If he was speaking to a plural body he would of said YE, not HE.

Ok, I'll play along. Who is the "he" in that passage?

[kosta50]

Not this born again Bible believer

Of course not. I forgot: you're your own pope and church, right?

[kosta50]

They are to judge the 12 tribes of Israel

But there were 14 Apostles in all!

[kosta50]

I had asked before not to quote Paul. It seems that your whole concept of Christianity, or 90% or more, comes from Paul.

That Paul was suspected of Gnosticism is not my invention either and is not maligning him. He was worse than that before he converted -- he persecuted Chirstians. It also does not say that he did not become a great Christian because of his earlier beliefs and deeds. I also said that he saved Christianity from certain death. I would intentionally not go beyond that statement.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

To be clear so we can all understand just what you're speculating about the apostle Paul, are any of his beliefs POST-conversion thought by you to be "gnostic?"

Or just some of his PRE-conversion beliefs when he was universally-recognized to be a chief tormentor of Christians?

[Gamecock]

**It seems that your whole concept of Christianity, or 90% or more, comes from Paul.**

How is Paul any different than the red letters of Christ? Or from any other NT writer? Anything more than a superficial scanning of the NT shows the consistency that you expect from the same author.