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To: NYer

I don't think that Protestants "attack" Mary. I think we hold her in high regard. We just don't believe that she is divine in nature, and therefore don't pray to her or sing her praises. We only pray to and praise God.

Perhaps the woman in Revelations 12 is Israel?


4 posted on 12/08/2005 9:44:31 AM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: Abigail Adams
Fair enough - and I thank you for your non-confrontational statement regarding the difference between your beliefs and that of my Church.

However, I must correct something in your post.

There's a big difference between prayer and worship. We do not worship Mary. We do pray to her, but in order to ask her to intercede on our behalf. It's not a worshipful prayer. It is, in my mind, like needing to ask a favor of someone who's in another part of the country. You can ask your friend who lives in that town to have a face-to-face conversation with the person from whom you need help.

That's the deal for me. Mary's there (in heaven), she's got big time street cred and she loves us. Why not ask her to help us out in our conversations with God?

7 posted on 12/08/2005 9:57:36 AM PST by AlaninSA (It's ONE NATION UNDER GOD...brought to you by the Knights of Columbus)
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To: Abigail Adams

Since this post invites a Protestant reply, I will do so.

As noted, we respect and honor Mary; we understand she points to Christ; but we believe her role is like John the Baptist's, pointing to the Author of our redemption. The deeper issue is the differing concepts of grace and merit. We believe the merit and grace is Christ's alone, and we respect Mary in our way by refusing to conflate her with the Godhead.


10 posted on 12/08/2005 9:59:24 AM PST by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: Abigail Adams
I don't think that Protestants "attack" Mary. I think we hold her in high regard. We just don't believe that she is divine in nature

Excellent! Because she's not, and you'll find that everyone is in 100% agreement on that.

There's no notion of divinity here; only that you hold in her in high regard, we hold her in higher regard. :)

14 posted on 12/08/2005 10:11:00 AM PST by Claud
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To: Abigail Adams
I don't think that Protestants "attack" Mary. I think we hold her in high regard. We just don't believe that she is divine in nature, and therefore don't pray to her or sing her praises. We only pray to and praise God.

Did anyone remember the popcorn?

20 posted on 12/08/2005 10:41:46 AM PST by Jim Noble (Non, je ne regrette rien)
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To: Abigail Adams

Did you read it?


26 posted on 12/08/2005 11:14:33 AM PST by tiki
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To: Abigail Adams
We just don't believe that she is divine in nature, and therefore don't pray to her or sing her praises. We only pray to and praise God.

Catholics only worship God, as well. Mary leads us to her Son and vice versa.

28 posted on 12/08/2005 11:19:45 AM PST by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: Abigail Adams
I don't think that Protestants "attack" Mary. I think we hold her in high regard. We just don't believe that she is divine in nature, and therefore don't pray to her or sing her praises. We only pray to and praise God.

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Not divine, but the Mother of God. What more do we need to revere her?

34 posted on 12/08/2005 11:40:36 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Abigail Adams
We just don't believe that she is divine in nature

Or sinless. Or forever virginal. Or snatched up to heaven without dying. Or a mediator between the believer and God. We don't see the BVM every time prophetic or poetic scripture mentions an unnamed virtuous woman.

65 posted on 12/08/2005 1:38:38 PM PST by Lee N. Field
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To: Abigail Adams
We just don't believe that she is divine in nature, and therefore don't pray to her or sing her praises.

Well, that's where Protestant misconceptions and plain wrong teachings come into place. Catholics do not consider Mother Mary to be divine -- the Theotokos is/was NOT divine, her being human makes the value of her decision even greater.
95 posted on 12/08/2005 8:01:14 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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