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When last did your Bishop appear on television looking and acting as a decisive,manly,virile, authoritative teacher; a man you could tell just by looking at him and listening to him would brook no nonsense or heresy or foolishness; a man willng to call evil evil? When last did you hear your Bishop calling out the heretical freaks and in his Diocese and dressing them down in public? hen last did you read your Bishop had fired the lunatics running the Diocesan Paper and replaced them with men and women of Christian virtue? When last did you hear your Bishop had unhorsed Sr. Socialist in the Chancery and sent her and her felt-banner-knitting nitwits scurrying towards some Richard Rohr seminar where they could sit in a circle with Sr. Hobday and howl at the moon while mourning the passing of Molly Yard? When last did you ...

oh, never mind...

America has been totally feminized and one sees his Bishop as a smiling politician unwilling to offend man; but not, apparently, God. One sees his Bishop glad-handing everyone, praising everything; one never hears his Bishop Teaching and Ruling in Public, denouncing evil and praising virtue:and, denouncing BY NAME the men engaged in evil and praising BY NAME the men engaged in virtue. One can see his Bishop Sanctifying at the local Cathedral; but, in public? Please. In America we are taught religion is private and sex is public.

OK, rant over.

I did think this was an interesting take on the issue and especially revealing was the fear and trepidation about Bishops acting like men.

1 posted on 09/22/2005 8:04:40 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: bornacatholic

** Yes. Homosexuality is fundamentally a disorder in the personality of a person.**

Worth repeating!


2 posted on 09/22/2005 8:18:34 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: bornacatholic
"When last did your Bishop appear on television looking and acting as a decisive,manly,virile, authoritative teacher; a man you could tell just by looking at him and listening to him would brook no nonsense or heresy or foolishness; a man willng to call evil evil? When last did you hear your Bishop calling out the heretical freaks and in his Diocese and dressing them down in public? hen last did you read your Bishop had fired the lunatics running the Diocesan Paper and replaced them with men and women of Christian virtue? When last did you hear your Bishop had unhorsed Sr. Socialist in the Chancery and sent her and her felt-banner-knitting nitwits scurrying towards some Richard Rohr seminar where they could sit in a circle with Sr. Hobday and howl at the moon while mourning the passing of Molly Yard? When last did you ..."

Well, there are the Bishop Sheen re-runs on EWTN! Shoot, if my bishop acted like the quote above, I'd keel over in total shock! Now the pastor at my parish, on the other hand, is another story! He regularly denounces abortion, loose morality of all kinds, nincompoop theologians (his term), and dissident/disobedient bishops/priests/religious. God bless him; my 72-year old Irish dreadnought pastor has more spine than 98% of the AmChurch bishops put together.
3 posted on 09/22/2005 8:53:37 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: bornacatholic
Here's the archdiocese's response.

Archdiocesan Response

Here's my summary of the response. We've done a lot of good. Blah blah blah. It's only a small minority of priests. Blah blah blah. We're requiring all our volunteer laity to attend training in how not to molest children. Blah blah blah. We're being unfairly targeted. Catholic bashing. Blah blah blah. We never let a priest with a clinical diagnosis of pedophilia or ephebophilia back into a parish. Blah blah blah. What's important to note in that last set of blah blahs is that the archdiocese is implicitly admitting they sent known abusers back into ministry with children if the sicko's primary diagnosis was alcoholism, etc.

Philly.com tells us that a letter from Cardinal Rigali will be read at all the masses this weekend. Let's hope he does a better job in his letter at accepting responsibility for the converup than he did in the 72 page statement put out by his lawyers at Stradley.

5 posted on 09/22/2005 9:04:48 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: bornacatholic
When last did your Bishop appear on television looking and acting as a decisive,manly,virile, authoritative teacher; a man you could tell just by looking at him and listening to him would brook no nonsense or heresy or foolishness; a man willng to call evil evil?

Who him?

William K. Weigand Bishop of Sacramento

I dunno. When was the last time he was on TV? Every time I've seen him on TV or a public appearance, he seems to be a pretty straight talker. Not a PC mush mouth.

6 posted on 09/22/2005 9:43:12 AM PDT by siunevada
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The active avoidance of these qualities is an active denial of the generative properties of fatherhood qua fatherhood. In many ways, it is contraceptive (c.f. definition of capere) in nature.

Isn't this interesting? He's describing the most basic characteristic of sex roles, male and female, in modern Western society. Most men reject fatherhood, and most women reject motherhood, consistently, by their daily decision to contracept, or their final decision for sterilization.

Why should we be surprised that priests and Bishops, even heterosexual ones, would lack the basic courage and virility to father?

11 posted on 09/22/2005 1:19:14 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Start the revolution - I'll bring the tea and muffins!)
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To: bornacatholic
"When last did your Bishop appear on television looking and acting as a decisive, manly, virile, authoritative teacher"

How manly and virile can he be while dressed in the episcopal garb forced on him by medieval convention? Get rid of the lace rochets, cappa magnas, mitres and such, and you might give him a fighting chance.

Elsewhere someone mentions the feminization of America being a problem; the Catholic Church has been struggling with that burden for centuries. Short of the Broadway stage, a homosexual couldn't find a better costuming option than Holy Mother Church.

12 posted on 09/22/2005 10:01:22 PM PDT by mirabile_dictu
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