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FINDING MY RELIGION: Julia Sweeney talks about how she became an atheist
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 8/15/5 | David Ian Miller

Posted on 08/15/2005 2:44:54 PM PDT by SmithL

With conservative Christians calling the shots in Washington, creationism crawling back into the nation's schools and even normally decadent Hollywood hopping onto the spiritual bandwagon, it's a beleaguered time for atheists in America.

Comedian Julia Sweeney, a former Roman Catholic who lost her faith in God, tries to keep her sense of humor. Best known for her portrayal of the androgynous character "Pat" on "Saturday Night Live," Sweeney recently completed a successful run in Los Angeles of a one-woman show, "Letting Go of God," which chronicles her own disillusionment with religion.

Now she is telling her story in a book, "My Beautiful Loss of Faith Story" (Henry Holt). Sweeney, who grew up the oldest of five children in Spokane, Wash., is now the single mother of an adopted girl from China. She spoke with me from her home in Los Angeles.


Was it difficult for you to come out as a nonbeliever?

No. It actually wasn't. If I had gone to Salt Lake City and done this show, maybe that would have been different. But here [in L.A.] you're not defined socially by your religious views.

I think most of my friends were shocked that I actually thought about religion that much. I had several people come up and say, "I didn't know you were so religious!" I think they were more surprised by how religious I was before I wasn't religious than they were by the fact that I wasn't religious. [laughter]

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1 posted on 08/15/2005 2:44:55 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Atheism is not a religion, it is the lack of religion.


2 posted on 08/15/2005 2:49:25 PM PDT by RedBeaconNY (Vous parlez trop, mais vous ne dites rien.)
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To: SmithL
Are you teaching your daughter about religion? How are you handling that?

Well, at school they say the pledge of allegiance, and that's actually been pretty upsetting to me because you have to say "under God." So I told her to say "under laws." [laughs]. And she said, "No, mom, you have to say under God in order to be nice." Her feeling is she doesn't want to stick out, right? She wants to do what everyone else is doing.

They never should have let that kid out of China. Given the spread of Christianity there, she would have been in a much more wholesome environment.
3 posted on 08/15/2005 2:50:21 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: RedBeaconNY

I'm glad they are admitting it is a religion. It is a religion. Why should one religion be allowed to oppose itself on society with a free pass?


4 posted on 08/15/2005 2:51:13 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: nickcarraway

For the purpose of a political classification, I suppose it could loosely be called a religion. They actively believe that everything in Christianity et al. is false- but that's the extent of it.


5 posted on 08/15/2005 2:54:34 PM PDT by RedBeaconNY (Vous parlez trop, mais vous ne dites rien.)
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To: madprof98
Another perturbed liberal forcing her beliefs on someone else. It is LIBERALS who have NO tolerance or concern for others. Thank God, I'll never be a liberal and my belief in Him gets stronger EVERY day.
6 posted on 08/15/2005 2:54:52 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: SmithL

Chris and Pat

7 posted on 08/15/2005 2:56:17 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: SmithL
Atheism. Hmmm.

It is hard enough to prove an ordinary little "negative."

What incredible stupidity and arrogance to presume a "cosmic negative" and then bet your life and your eternity on it!

9 posted on 08/15/2005 3:02:39 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: SmithL

I guess her readin comprehension isn't too sharp- Jesus didn't turn anyone into pigs. The pigs were possessed by demons that had possessed a person. Maybe she was thinking of Circe.


10 posted on 08/15/2005 3:03:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: RedBeaconNY
But here [in L.A.] you're not defined socially by your religious views.
Except if you believe in God....Then You Are A DOLT!
11 posted on 08/15/2005 3:06:10 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion they will give it to you.)
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To: nickcarraway; All
You know, like Jesus was angry a lot. When he turned all those people into pigs and made them run off a mountain, it was so hateful, not just to people but to pigs. I felt upset for the pigs!
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“The trouble with modern education is you never know how ignorant people are. With anyone over fifty you can be fairly confident what’s been taught and what’s been left out. But these young people have such an intelligent, knowledgeable surface, and then the crust suddenly breaks and you look down into depths of confusion you didn’t know existed. Take yesterday. He seemed to be doing very well. He’d learned large bits of the catechism by heart, and the Lord’s Prayer and the Hail Mary. Then I asked him as usual if there was anything troubling him, and he looked at me in a crafty way and said, ‘Look, Father, I don’t think you’re being straight with me. I want to join your Church and I’m going to join your Church, but you’re holding too much back.’ I asked what he meant, and he said: ‘I’ve had a long talk with a Catholic -- a very pious, well-educated one, and I’ve learned a thing or two. For instance, that you have to sleep with your feet pointing East because that’s the direction of heaven, and if you die in the night you can walk there. Now I’ll sleep with my feet pointing any way that suits Julia, but d’you expect a grown man to believe about walking to heaven? And what about the Pope who made one of his horses a cardinal? And what about the box you keep in the church porch, and if you put in a pound note with someone’s name on it, they get sent to hell. I don’t say there mayn’t be a good reason for all this,’ he said, ‘but you ought to tell me about it and not let me find out for myself.’”

“What can the poor man have meant?” said Lady Marchmain.

“You see he’s a long way from the Church yet,” said Father Mowbray.

“But who can he have been talking to? Did he dream it all? Cordelia, what’s the matter?”

“What a chump! Oh, Mummy, what a glorious chump!”

“Cordelia, it was you.”

“Oh, Mummy, who could have dreamed he’d swallow it? I told him such a lot of things. About the sacred monkeys in the Vatican — all kinds of things.”

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-- Evelyn Waugh, Brideshead Revisited.


12 posted on 08/15/2005 3:28:00 PM PDT by dighton
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To: SmithL; little jeremiah; EdReform

Her religion is the darkside of lesbianism.

http://www.culturevulture.net/Theater8/LettingGoofGod.htm

archives





Letting Go of God
Julia Sweeney

Los Angeles
Hudson Backstage Theatre
October 9, 2004 - May 29, 2005





Our review of an earlier monologue in this series


It's Pat!: My Life Exposed
(1992), Julia Sweeney



Julia Sweeney Movies



14k Ruby Heart Pendant


Monologues run the risk of being tiresome examinations of the actor/creator’s navel. Spaulding Grey’s spectacular exercises in the English language, observation, and insight were at the same time torturously, neurotically, and narcissistically focused. Contrast that with Julia Sweeney’s refreshing Letting Go of God. Sweeney began her writing of Letting Go by presenting her story to the Skeptics Society at Cal Tech. It is the intellectual journey of a complex, curious and open mind, told with humor, but not trivialized. While neither confession nor apology, nor total rejection of the potential of religion, it is the charting of her transubstantiation from rigorously observant Catholic child to still a grappling atheistic adult--a conversion she describes as being more shocking to her family and home town than had she come out of the closet and announced she was a lesbian.


13 posted on 08/15/2005 3:45:30 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: SmithL

http://clublet.com/c/c/why?PascalsWager


14 posted on 08/15/2005 4:06:55 PM PDT by mmercier
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To: SmithL
Oh well Pat was a pretty funny sketch.
15 posted on 08/15/2005 4:22:22 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: Grampa Dave

Thanks - looks like one for one or t'other ping list.

(Been seriously overwhelmed lately - hope to ping tonight.)


16 posted on 08/15/2005 4:43:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: RedBeaconNY
Was it difficult for you to come out as a nonbeliever? when you became so bored with your existence that you began broadcasting your leftist stupidity to complete strangers?
17 posted on 08/15/2005 5:46:04 PM PDT by Antioch (Flannery O'Connor: “evil is not a problem to be solved, but a mystery to be endured”)
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To: SmithL

Pray for her. May the Holy Spirit enlighten her heart. May she repent of her sins and may the Blessed Mother pray for her on Our Mother's day of Assumption.


18 posted on 08/15/2005 5:52:54 PM PDT by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
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To: nickcarraway
That caught my eye as well. She doesn't come across as a terribly educated person in this interview. It seems like all her beefs with Catholicism could've been answered if she had made the effort to learn a little more about the faith and why we believe the things we do. But she didn't. It makes me wonder if she has some other motivation for abandoning religion, and she just isn't mentioning it. A disturbing number of folks I know who are atheist, agnostic, or non-religious seem to be motivated mainly out of guilt, especially over sexual matters. They just can't stand knowing they are accountable to God, so they'd rather give up belief in God than give up those precious orgasms. And people say religion is a crutch!

I'm surprised her play about becoming an atheist is attracting any attention at all. Really, how shocking is it that a left coast actress is an atheist? Seems like it would be the norm these days. Isn't this whole bash-organized-religion song and dance getting old?
19 posted on 08/15/2005 6:12:38 PM PDT by sassbox
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"I said God is this idea of a big man who lives up in the clouds and he created everything."

This says it all about her own evolutionary failure.

20 posted on 08/16/2005 1:04:40 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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