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FINDING MY RELIGION: Julia Sweeney talks about how she became an atheist
San Francisco Chronicle ^
| 8/15/5
| David Ian Miller
Posted on 08/15/2005 2:44:54 PM PDT by SmithL
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posted on
08/15/2005 2:44:55 PM PDT
by
SmithL
To: SmithL
Atheism is not a religion, it is the lack of religion.
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posted on
08/15/2005 2:49:25 PM PDT
by
RedBeaconNY
(Vous parlez trop, mais vous ne dites rien.)
To: SmithL
Are you teaching your daughter about religion? How are you handling that? Well, at school they say the pledge of allegiance, and that's actually been pretty upsetting to me because you have to say "under God." So I told her to say "under laws." [laughs]. And she said, "No, mom, you have to say under God in order to be nice." Her feeling is she doesn't want to stick out, right? She wants to do what everyone else is doing.
They never should have let that kid out of China. Given the spread of Christianity there, she would have been in a much more wholesome environment.
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posted on
08/15/2005 2:50:21 PM PDT
by
madprof98
To: RedBeaconNY
I'm glad they are admitting it is a religion. It is a religion. Why should one religion be allowed to oppose itself on society with a free pass?
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posted on
08/15/2005 2:51:13 PM PDT
by
nickcarraway
(I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
To: nickcarraway
For the purpose of a political classification, I suppose it could loosely be called a religion. They actively believe that everything in Christianity et al. is false- but that's the extent of it.
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posted on
08/15/2005 2:54:34 PM PDT
by
RedBeaconNY
(Vous parlez trop, mais vous ne dites rien.)
To: madprof98
Another perturbed liberal forcing her beliefs on someone else. It is LIBERALS who have NO tolerance or concern for others. Thank God, I'll never be a liberal and my belief in Him gets stronger EVERY day.
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posted on
08/15/2005 2:54:52 PM PDT
by
nmh
(Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
To: SmithL
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Chris and Pat |
Comment #8 Removed by Moderator
To: SmithL
Atheism. Hmmm.
It is hard enough to prove an ordinary little "negative."
What incredible stupidity and arrogance to presume a "cosmic negative" and then bet your life and your eternity on it!
To: SmithL
I guess her readin comprehension isn't too sharp- Jesus didn't turn anyone into pigs. The pigs were possessed by demons that had possessed a person. Maybe she was thinking of Circe.
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posted on
08/15/2005 3:03:02 PM PDT
by
nickcarraway
(I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
To: RedBeaconNY
But here [in L.A.] you're not defined socially by your religious views.
Except if you believe in God....Then You Are A DOLT!
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posted on
08/15/2005 3:06:10 PM PDT
by
stocksthatgoup
(Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion they will give it to you.)
To: nickcarraway; All
You know, like Jesus was angry a lot. When he turned all those people into pigs and made them run off a mountain, it was so hateful, not just to people but to pigs. I felt upset for the pigs!.
The trouble with modern education is you never know how ignorant people are. With anyone over fifty you can be fairly confident whats been taught and whats been left out. But these young people have such an intelligent, knowledgeable surface, and then the crust suddenly breaks and you look down into depths of confusion you didnt know existed. Take yesterday. He seemed to be doing very well. Hed learned large bits of the catechism by heart, and the Lords Prayer and the Hail Mary. Then I asked him as usual if there was anything troubling him, and he looked at me in a crafty way and said, Look, Father, I dont think youre being straight with me. I want to join your Church and Im going to join your Church, but youre holding too much back. I asked what he meant, and he said: Ive had a long talk with a Catholic -- a very pious, well-educated one, and Ive learned a thing or two. For instance, that you have to sleep with your feet pointing East because thats the direction of heaven, and if you die in the night you can walk there. Now Ill sleep with my feet pointing any way that suits Julia, but dyou expect a grown man to believe about walking to heaven? And what about the Pope who made one of his horses a cardinal? And what about the box you keep in the church porch, and if you put in a pound note with someones name on it, they get sent to hell. I dont say there maynt be a good reason for all this, he said, but you ought to tell me about it and not let me find out for myself.What can the poor man have meant? said Lady Marchmain.
You see hes a long way from the Church yet, said Father Mowbray.
But who can he have been talking to? Did he dream it all? Cordelia, whats the matter?
What a chump! Oh, Mummy, what a glorious chump!
Cordelia, it was you.
Oh, Mummy, who could have dreamed hed swallow it? I told him such a lot of things. About the sacred monkeys in the Vatican all kinds of things.
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-- Evelyn Waugh, Brideshead Revisited.
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posted on
08/15/2005 3:28:00 PM PDT
by
dighton
To: SmithL; little jeremiah; EdReform
Her religion is the darkside of lesbianism.
http://www.culturevulture.net/Theater8/LettingGoofGod.htm
archives
Letting Go of God
Julia Sweeney
Los Angeles
Hudson Backstage Theatre
October 9, 2004 - May 29, 2005
Our review of an earlier monologue in this series
It's Pat!: My Life Exposed
(1992), Julia Sweeney
Julia Sweeney Movies
14k Ruby Heart Pendant
Monologues run the risk of being tiresome examinations of the actor/creators navel. Spaulding Greys spectacular exercises in the English language, observation, and insight were at the same time torturously, neurotically, and narcissistically focused. Contrast that with Julia Sweeneys refreshing Letting Go of God. Sweeney began her writing of Letting Go by presenting her story to the Skeptics Society at Cal Tech. It is the intellectual journey of a complex, curious and open mind, told with humor, but not trivialized. While neither confession nor apology, nor total rejection of the potential of religion, it is the charting of her transubstantiation from rigorously observant Catholic child to still a grappling atheistic adult--a conversion she describes as being more shocking to her family and home town than had she come out of the closet and announced she was a lesbian.
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posted on
08/15/2005 3:45:30 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
To: SmithL
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posted on
08/15/2005 4:06:55 PM PDT
by
mmercier
To: SmithL
Oh well Pat was a pretty funny sketch.
To: Grampa Dave
Thanks - looks like one for one or t'other ping list.
(Been seriously overwhelmed lately - hope to ping tonight.)
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posted on
08/15/2005 4:43:58 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
To: RedBeaconNY
Was it difficult for you to come out as a nonbeliever? when you became so bored with your existence that you began broadcasting your leftist stupidity to complete strangers?
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posted on
08/15/2005 5:46:04 PM PDT
by
Antioch
(Flannery O'Connor: “evil is not a problem to be solved, but a mystery to be endured”)
To: SmithL
Pray for her. May the Holy Spirit enlighten her heart. May she repent of her sins and may the Blessed Mother pray for her on Our Mother's day of Assumption.
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posted on
08/15/2005 5:52:54 PM PDT
by
franky
(Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
To: nickcarraway
That caught my eye as well. She doesn't come across as a terribly educated person in this interview. It seems like all her beefs with Catholicism could've been answered if she had made the effort to learn a little more about the faith and why we believe the things we do. But she didn't. It makes me wonder if she has some other motivation for abandoning religion, and she just isn't mentioning it. A disturbing number of folks I know who are atheist, agnostic, or non-religious seem to be motivated mainly out of guilt, especially over sexual matters. They just can't stand knowing they are accountable to God, so they'd rather give up belief in God than give up those precious orgasms. And people say religion is a crutch!
I'm surprised her play about becoming an atheist is attracting any attention at all. Really, how shocking is it that a left coast actress is an atheist? Seems like it would be the norm these days. Isn't this whole bash-organized-religion song and dance getting old?
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posted on
08/15/2005 6:12:38 PM PDT
by
sassbox
To: SmithL
"I said God is this idea of a big man who lives up in the clouds and he created everything." This says it all about her own evolutionary failure.
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posted on
08/16/2005 1:04:40 AM PDT
by
kosta50
(Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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