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A New Exodus? Americans are Exiting Liberal Churches
BreakPoint ^ | June 14, 2005 | Albert Mohler

Posted on 06/15/2005 11:54:58 AM PDT by siunevada

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1 posted on 06/15/2005 11:54:58 AM PDT by siunevada
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This is for sure happening in Judaism as well. Congregations that don't answer the hard questions and give a half-assed version of the bible are simply being abandoned. Why should the congregants stay if religion is just about "being a good person"? Can't you be a "good person" without going to church/synagogue or studying the bible? That's my narrow view of what's happening.


2 posted on 06/15/2005 11:57:56 AM PDT by Betaille
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I wonder why there is no mention of the Catholic Church...


3 posted on 06/15/2005 12:00:16 PM PDT by mike182d ("Let fly the white flag of war." - Zapp Brannigan)
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To: siunevada

Liberals are like locusts, they destroy everything in their wake.


4 posted on 06/15/2005 12:03:11 PM PDT by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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"I wonder why there is no mention of the Catholic Church"


Well there's only one isn't there?


5 posted on 06/15/2005 12:04:39 PM PDT by Betaille
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"Mainline Protestantism will reach a certain point where it will appeal only to Wiccans, vegetarians, sandal-wearers, and people who play the recorder. No one will feel at home there if they believe in God."

LOL... that's a perfect description of what's happened to reform judaism. He's absolutely right that the same thing is happening in liberal protestant congregations. What's the point of a church that doesn't believe in G-d?


6 posted on 06/15/2005 12:07:43 PM PDT by Betaille
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...compelling evidence that liberal Christianity is fast imploding upon itself.

It could not be otherwise. Over time, God will send those who are seeking Him to churches where He is proclaimed. Liberals have taken over nearly every major Protestant denomination over the last 100 years. Not coincidentally these denominations started losing members to Southern Baptists, Bible Churches, Assembly of God and independent charismatics. No denomination is perfect and all have flaws, but those that hold the word of God in high esteem and seek God through faith will find open hearts.

Liberals never take over denominations and lead them to new heights of evangelism, discipleship and works of service. They take over denominations and run them into the ground.

7 posted on 06/15/2005 12:08:50 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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"There may now be twice as many lesbians in the United States as Episcopalians."

Aren't those two groups one and the same?

8 posted on 06/15/2005 12:09:47 PM PDT by shekkian
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To: siunevada

and the funny thing is, the liberals are claiming that people are pouring out of The Catholic church and other orthodox churches and into theirs.


9 posted on 06/15/2005 12:12:06 PM PDT by JustMytwocents70
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***In its place is a church that preaches a message Shiflett summarizes as this: "God is love...***

No, they preach "Love is god."


10 posted on 06/15/2005 12:23:23 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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At the same time, Shiflett detected the bigger picture--the decline of liberal churches as compared to growth among the conservatives. Like any good reporter, he knew he was onto a big story.

Sheep do not eat bull$hit and they don't follow shepherds who are leading them over a cliff.

They follow shepherds who will feed them whole grain truth milled in the "Faith-of-Our-Fathers' Milling, Co. Their motto: "We separate the Wheat from the chaff."

11 posted on 06/15/2005 12:34:06 PM PDT by N. Theknow (If Social Security is so good - why aren't members of Congress in it?)
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To: Betaille

Depends on which "Catholic" Church you go to. :-)


12 posted on 06/15/2005 12:38:23 PM PDT by mike182d ("Let fly the white flag of war." - Zapp Brannigan)
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To: drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; jboot; AZhardliner; ...

On the other side of the theological divide, most conservative denominations are growing. The conservative Presbyterian Church in America [PCA] grew 42.4 percent.....

So much for Calvinist Churches not growing.

13 posted on 06/15/2005 12:40:23 PM PDT by Gamecock (The ends justifies the means.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
"No, they preach "Love is god.""

Excellent point!

14 posted on 06/15/2005 12:49:38 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: siunevada

Thank you for the post. To me, it just exemplifies what is written in Rev. 2 and 3 (the messages to the seven churches). The messages in the letters (which copies of all seven letters were sent to each church) are to (1) the local church (2) all churches in all time as tests by which they may discern their true spiritual state in the sight of God (3) personal "he who has an ear to hear", and (4) prophetic, disclosing the phases in the spiritual history of the church. The last letter, to the Laodicians, show the church in its final state of apostasy. No wonder true believers are leaving the liberal churches!


15 posted on 06/15/2005 2:15:16 PM PDT by nuclady
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"Mainline Protestantism will reach a certain point where it will appeal only to Wiccans, vegetarians, sandal-wearers, and people who play the recorder...."

LOL! Thanks for posting this, it really is a good review. Shifflet is also a good writer, I've always enjoyed reading his stuff. This might definately be one to put in the old Amazon shopping cart!


16 posted on 06/15/2005 2:19:55 PM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

"No, they preach "Love is god."

AHA! Good point, nicely made.


17 posted on 06/15/2005 2:21:13 PM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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The conservative Presbyterian Church in America [PCA] grew 42.4 percent.....

Organized at a constitutional assembly in December 1973, this church was first known as the National Presbyterian Church but changed its name in 1974 to Presbyterian Church in America (PCA). It separated from the Presbyterian Church in the United States (Southern) in opposition to the long-developing theological liberalism which denied the deity of Jesus Christ and the inerrancy and authority of Scripture.

Just a couple of minor disagreements, eh? Denied the deity. Wow. Old heresies never die.

18 posted on 06/15/2005 2:33:05 PM PDT by siunevada
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To: sionnsar

FYI...


19 posted on 06/15/2005 2:46:44 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: JustMytwocents70
In actuality, the reverse is true, as many conservative Episcopalians have either become Roman Catholics or joined the Orthodox churches, especially the Antiochian Orthodox Church. I remember reading a statistic in the early 1990s claiming that the probability of a person raised in the Presbyterian Church (USA) staying in that denomination in adulthood was below 25%. Those who move toward a more Biblical position will probably head toward an evangelical denomination, Calvinist or not. Those who are more secular see little need for early rising on Sunday mornings to see clergy in bathrobes spouting liturgical formulas in which the ministers do not believe.

The mainline churches are in critical condition. In 50 years or less, they will either cease to exist or have consolidated into one "United Church" style organization.

20 posted on 06/15/2005 3:12:34 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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