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[This clownish farce, like so much Piskie "worship" these days, is directed toward the audience, not to God-ward. Bingo! --sionnsar]
1 posted on 05/27/2005 6:06:05 PM PDT by sionnsar
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2 posted on 05/27/2005 6:06:44 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Iran Azadi || Fraud in WA: More votes than voters!)
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Well, my Lutheran parish kept the Festival of the Holy Trinity by reciting the Athanasian Creed antiphonally.

The Holy Father stands against the tyranny of relativism; I will stand with him and with Athanasius against the tyranny of relevantism.

3 posted on 05/27/2005 8:02:41 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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We can only pray that God is even now raising up for us a new Cranmer, Latimer, Ridley, Andrewes, in our need.

Perhaps God has already answered that prayer.

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How many winds of doctrine have we known in recent decades, how many ideological currents, how many ways of thinking. The small boat of the thought of many Christians has often been tossed about by these waves - flung from one extreme to another: from Marxism to liberalism, even to libertinism; from collectivism to radical individualism; from atheism to a vague religious mysticism; from agnosticism to syncretism and so forth. Every day new sects spring up, and what St Paul says about human deception and the trickery that strives to entice people into error (cf. Eph 4: 14) comes true.

Today, having a clear faith based on the Creed of the Church is often labeled as fundamentalism. Whereas relativism, that is, letting oneself be "tossed here and there, carried about by every wind of doctrine", seems the only attitude that can cope with modern times. We are building a dictatorship of relativism that does not recognize anything as definitive and whose ultimate goal consists solely of one's own ego and desires.

We, however, have a different goal: the Son of God, the true man. He is the measure of true humanism. An "adult" faith is not a faith that follows the trends of fashion and the latest novelty; a mature adult faith is deeply rooted in friendship with Christ. It is this friendship that opens us up to all that is good and gives us a criterion by which to distinguish the true from the false, and deceipt from truth.

We must develop this adult faith; we must guide the flock of Christ to this faith. And it is this faith - only faith - that creates unity and is fulfilled in love.

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PRO ELIGENDO ROMANO PONTIFICE HOMILY OF HIS EMINENCE CARD. JOSEPH RATZINGER

4 posted on 05/28/2005 5:07:09 AM PDT by NYer ("Love without truth is blind; Truth without love is empty." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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From a Lutheran point of view, the "communion" portion this clown "liturgy" is pretty "interesting". There are NO Eucharistic Prayer, NO Words of Institution, NO epiklesis, NO NOTHING!!!!

In the Lutheran Church, we have a controversy, even among conservative Lutherans, as to how we should celebrate Holy Communion. The WordAlone movement wants only the Words of Institution. Evangelical Catholics want a full Eucaristic Prayer including the Words of Institution. Evangelical Orthodox (like me) and some Evangelical Catholics want all of the above, but also including an Epiklesis (calling down the Holy Spirit upon the people, and the bread and wine).

Well, this radically stripped-down "liturgy" does WordAlone one "better". There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, not even the Words of Institution!!!! All that, and clowns and all sorts of other irrelevant hooplah as well. Whatever subspecies of conservative Lutheran we are, we would all agree--this is no Holy Communion at all, but only a bunch of blasphemous nonsense!!!! The ECUSA is truly in the handbasket, and it is accelerating!!!!

8 posted on 05/28/2005 4:28:22 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Hristos voskrese!)
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