Posted on 04/28/2005 7:21:48 AM PDT by murphE
(PRWEB) April 28, 2005 -- Vespers? Benediction? Mass … in Latin? Many Catholics have never even heard of these things, much less ever participated in them. But for the Juventutem crowd, such ancient Roman Catholic devotions are a typical part of their ordinary day.
“Juventutem” is an international delegation of traditional Catholic youth attending World Youth Day 2005 in Germany. The delegation is named “Juventutem” after a quote from the prayers at the foot of the altar in the 1962 Roman Missal for Mass: “Introibo ad altare Dei, ad Deum Qui laetificat juventutem meam.” Translated from the Latin, this phrase means “I will go up to the altar of the Lord, to God who gives joy to my youth.”
Prior to the 1960’s, all Catholic Masses were in Latin and were celebrated according to a rite dating back to the 5th century. In 1988, Pope John Paul II called on all bishops throughout the world to grant generous access once again to the traditional Latin Mass in their dioceses, in a papal letter entitled “Ecclesia Dei.” Pope Benedict XVI has also supports the traditional Latin Mass, noting in his 1997 book “Salt of the Earth”: "I am of the opinion that the old rite should be granted much more generously to all those who desire it.” The ancient Latin Mass is attracting increasing numbers of young Catholics, a phenomenon surprising to many who associate teens with a lack of interest in religion.
Indira Sweeny, secretary for Juventutem U.S.A. explains, “Juventutem means ‘youth’ – but not what you usually think of as youth in the modern sense of looking young and fit… we are talking about true youth. The youth that comes from divine grace, youth of the spirit that flows from the love of God.”
Juventutem is for young Catholics ages 16-30, and is organized into two phases: Phase 1 (August 10-15) will be a religious retreat in Bavaria, attended exclusively by the Juventutem youth. Phase II (August 16-21) will be at World Youth Day 2005, when the Juventutem delegation will meet with the rest of the Catholics attending World Youth Day in Cologne. Daily traditional Latin Mass, vespers, and benediction will be available, as well as lectures and traditional catechesis.
Three cardinals and six bishops will be part of Juventutem: Cardinal Francis George, Cardinal Francis Arinze, and Cardinal George Pell have agreed to either lead rosaries with the group or pray vespers and benediction. Bishops Fernando Arêas Rifan, George Alencherry, and André-Mutien Léonard; and Archbishops Wolfgang Haas, Georg Eder, and Raymond Burke will also participate.
Please see www.juventutem.com for more details.
See post #56.
See post 60.
No objection to discussing exorcisms, just not quite sure how it relates to this thread. Am I missing a connection?
Yes, we are all sinners and subject to temptation. Are you going to keep your children cloistered from the world their entire lives? They will sin whether they are under your roof or thousands of miles away. Are you by your children's sides 24/7?
And avoiding the near occasion of sin.
“I will go up to the altar of the Lord, to God who gives joy to my youth.”
I can just see the priest and two altar boys coming from the sacristy to the foot of the altar. And this was in 1938.
For true Catholic ecumenism and evangelicalism we must adhere to St. Paul's direction in Colossians 3-14/15.
"And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. And let the peace of God rule in your hearts."
I have seen nothing but sarcasm and sneering toward John Paul II on the part of several posters. This attitude toward John Paul is exactly the same as Andrew Sullivan's, who also took the occasion of John Paul's death to attack him and wail about how he was destroying the church.
ELS: Are you going to keep your children cloistered from the world their entire lives?
Mershon: Why are you asking personal questions about how I raise my children? This is certainly off base and outside the subject matter of the thread. Let me guess, you are in your 30s or younger... What business is it of yours?
ELS: They will sin whether they are under your roof or thousands of miles away.
Mershon: First, I said nothing about them "sinning"; you did. I spoke of concupiscence. As for "proximate occasions of sin," I can think of none more obvious than being in a country with no drinking age, with thousands of teenagers and 20-somethings (Why would 30-year-old adults want to hang around with teenagers at something called World Youth Day, anyway?)for a concentrated period of time all going to "camp out" like many of the other WYDs--not to mention the sacrilege that occurred at many of them with consecrated hosts dropped on the ground and trampled underfoot a Papal Masses. Let's see. Do I trust unnamed teenage boys from foreign countries with who knows what kind of catechesis to freely associate with my daughter just because it is a "Catholic" event? Hmmm... Let me think.
It has nothing to do with trusting my children. It has everything to do with other people's children and the other attendees. Not that I should even answer your personal questions that you have no business of knowing.
ELS: Are you by your children's sides 24/7?
Mershon: As much as I would like to me, I am unfortunately NOT because I have to work all day so my wife can teach them and be with them. But again, another quite personal question that is really none of your business.
This has to do with prudence, and having 10 children, and being 40-something, not in my 20s or 30s or teens. Let me guess which one you are...
I was talking about your posts specifically. Something about a speck and a plank...
Nice attempt at diversion though...
What is it then?
not sure I'd want my kids around Cardinal Pell-see link below especially commits about the Diocese of Cleveland-Cardinal Pell's diocese
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1391737/posts
Catholicism never ceases to amaze me.
Ancient religious practices---teens.
If I'm off topic I apologize. I did not post specifically on the mass, but exorcism is an ancient tradition last time I checked.
Now wait a second!!! Cardinal Pell is the cardinal of Sydney Australia not Cleveland Ohio.
Please be careful not to confuse anyone else with Bishop Pilla of Cleveland, no one deserves to be so maligned as that.
The Catholic Church teaches that a Catholic may fulfill his Sunday obligation by attending a Catholic rite of Mass. This includes the Eastern Orthodox as well as the SSPX or any validly ordained priest.
This is in the code of canon law and in the Vatican II documents themselves.
There has never been any officially promulgated ruling from Rome regarding the specific status of specific laymen who attend ONLY SSPX Masses. Many different things such as time, location, other available options, the subjective mentality of the laymen, and others, would all have to be factored in--something I am quite sure you do not know--nor do you have the authority to do anything about anyway.
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