Catholic Teens Attracted to Ancient Religious Practices

eMediaWire ^ | 04/28/05

[murphE]

Catholic Teens Attracted to Ancient Religious Practices: Juventutem Contingent to World Youth Day 2005 is Devoted to the Latin Mass

“Juventutem” is an international delegation of traditional Catholic youth attending World Youth Day 2005 in Germany. These young Catholics are devoted to the traditional Latin Mass, a 1500 year-old rite which has the approval of Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI.

(PRWEB) April 28, 2005 -- Vespers? Benediction? Mass … in Latin? Many Catholics have never even heard of these things, much less ever participated in them. But for the Juventutem crowd, such ancient Roman Catholic devotions are a typical part of their ordinary day.

“Juventutem” is an international delegation of traditional Catholic youth attending World Youth Day 2005 in Germany. The delegation is named “Juventutem” after a quote from the prayers at the foot of the altar in the 1962 Roman Missal for Mass: “Introibo ad altare Dei, ad Deum Qui laetificat juventutem meam.” Translated from the Latin, this phrase means “I will go up to the altar of the Lord, to God who gives joy to my youth.”

Prior to the 1960’s, all Catholic Masses were in Latin and were celebrated according to a rite dating back to the 5th century. In 1988, Pope John Paul II called on all bishops throughout the world to grant generous access once again to the traditional Latin Mass in their dioceses, in a papal letter entitled “Ecclesia Dei.” Pope Benedict XVI has also supports the traditional Latin Mass, noting in his 1997 book “Salt of the Earth”: "I am of the opinion that the old rite should be granted much more generously to all those who desire it.” The ancient Latin Mass is attracting increasing numbers of young Catholics, a phenomenon surprising to many who associate teens with a lack of interest in religion.

Indira Sweeny, secretary for Juventutem U.S.A. explains, “Juventutem means ‘youth’ – but not what you usually think of as youth in the modern sense of looking young and fit… we are talking about true youth. The youth that comes from divine grace, youth of the spirit that flows from the love of God.”

Juventutem is for young Catholics ages 16-30, and is organized into two phases: Phase 1 (August 10-15) will be a religious retreat in Bavaria, attended exclusively by the Juventutem youth. Phase II (August 16-21) will be at World Youth Day 2005, when the Juventutem delegation will meet with the rest of the Catholics attending World Youth Day in Cologne. Daily traditional Latin Mass, vespers, and benediction will be available, as well as lectures and traditional catechesis.

Three cardinals and six bishops will be part of Juventutem: Cardinal Francis George, Cardinal Francis Arinze, and Cardinal George Pell have agreed to either lead rosaries with the group or pray vespers and benediction. Bishops Fernando Arêas Rifan, George Alencherry, and André-Mutien Léonard; and Archbishops Wolfgang Haas, Georg Eder, and Raymond Burke will also participate.

Please see www.juventutem.com for more details.

[Lady In Blue]

Bumping for a later read. Looks most encouraging! Thanks!

[Vicomte13]

"I'm sure you know that of the great bulk of authentic and authoritative doctrine, very little has been infallibly defined."

I am indeed aware of this.
What I have thus far been unable to find is an authoritative list of that which HAS been infallibly defined.
Infallibility is the greatest single divide between Catholics and both Protestants and Orthodox. It is an important enough doctrine to have been made a crucial feature of the Vatican I Council.

Given its importance, and the importance of the distinction between infallible doctrines and the rest (important enough for the Church to assert the doctrine at Vatican I and maintain it through Vatican II in spite the obvious friction and difficulty it causes to ecumenism), I would very much like to see a real list of infallible doctrines.

I have exhausted my limited capacities on the Web and found none.
The Catechism is what I would take to be the closest thing to a list of infallible doctrines, given that it was issued with great solemnity as an explicit expression of the teaching authority of the Church. But I am informed, here, that the catechism is not infallible.

Perhaps you know of a list of infallible doctrines, and can refer me to it. I have come up empty.

[ELS]

Let me guess, you are in your 30s or younger..

Bzzzt. Thanks for playing.

[Romulus]

Cardinal Pell is one of the Good Guys. One of the best we've got.

[ELS]

I understand that the most conservative elements of the Church in Europe intend to be at WYD this year in support of Pope Benedict XVI and in support of the youth who are committed to the Apostolic Tradition.

I am glad to hear that and it sounds like an indication that this WYD will not be exactly like the previous ones.

[Romulus]

Teachings on faith or morals promulgated by an Ecumenical Council in union with the Bishop of Rome are infallible. So far as I'm aware, the only time the Holy Father has made use of his personal infallibility is in proclaiming the dogma of the Assumption.

[okokie]

Yeow,I didn't have my glasses on when I read the article-

[Vicomte13]

"Teachings on faith or morals promulgated by an Ecumenical Council in union with the Bishop of Rome are infallible. So far as I'm aware, the only time the Holy Father has made use of his personal infallibility is in proclaiming the dogma of the Assumption."

Ok, so does that mean that any doctrine promulgated by any of the 21 Ecumenical Councils is infallible? Those are available, mostly on line (in English translation, which may present a problem because of changes in meaning between languages).

Does it also mean that anything else NOT from one of the 21 Ecumenical Councils or the infallible papal decree(s) of the immediate post-Vatican I period in the 19th Century are fallible?

[TradicalRC]

Stop making up your own definitions of who is to be considered Catholic and who is not, we have a pope.

I'm not sure that I understand you. Do you believe that the Pope is the only person who can tell an authentic Catholic from a false one? Or that there are not already definitions of the tenets of Catholicism, regardless of who is Pope?

[murphE]

Oh I'm sure you do, look at post I was responding to. I was being facetious, since some people take it upon themselves to make up their own doctrines that they believe one must hold to be Catholic.

[TradicalRC]

Oh I'm sure you do

Oh good, my pride actually becomes an obstacle for me in that I have become adept at hiding my true motives from myself. I'm so glad to have found someone who can see into my soul. Please tell me anything else you can see so that I may make a more sincere act of contrition when the next occasion presents itself.

[Frank Sheed]

Or this:

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Frank

[Tantumergo]

"but I have a problem believing that winning people over to the True Catholic Faith is the purpose of this group's attendance at WYD."

Why? That's the whole damn point of them going! They aren't going there because they want to be part of a WYD Mass - these are traditionalists that we are speaking about.

As for the rest, do you have any 16 year-olds in your family or have you ever parented one?

[padfoot_lover]

I have a feeling this World Youth Day is going to be different (in a very good way) from the previous ones! I like the Holy Father's "style" so far, and am willing to bet he will "reshape" World Youth Day. He has already said that the Eucharist will be at the center of it......

[vox_freedom]

I have a feeling this World Youth Day is going to be different...

I hope so.

[gbcdoj]

Perhaps you know of a list of infallible doctrines, and can refer me to it. I have come up empty.

Frs. Rumble and Carty, in their book, Radio Replies, list the following as infallible papal proclamations:

St. Leo I, Letter to Flavian (the Tome), On the Divinity of Christ

St. Agatho, Letter Omnium Bonorum Spes, On the Divine and Human Wills in Christ

Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam, On Papal Supremacy

Benedict XII, Benedictus Deus, On the Heavenly Destiny of the Saints

Leo X, Exsurge Domine, Condemnation of the Errors of Luther

Innocent X, Cum Occasione, Condemnation of the Jansenist Errors

Innocent XI, Coelestis Pastor, Condemnation of the Quietist Errors

Clement XI, Unigenitus, Condemnation of the Errors of Quesnel

Pius VI, Auctorem Fidei, Condemnation of the Synod of Pistoia

Bl. Pius IX, Ineffabilis Deus, Dogma of the Immaculate Conception

Bl. Pius IX, Quanta Cura, Condemnation of Modern Errors

Leo XIII, Apostolicae Curae, Condemnation of Anglican Orders (doubtful)

Leo XIII, Testem Benevolentiae, Condemnation of Americanism (doubtful)

St. Pius X, Lamentabili Sane, Condemnation of the Errors of the Modernists

St. Pius X, Pascendi, Condemnation of the Errors of the Modernists

Pius XI, Casti Connubii, Condemnation of Contraception (probable)

Pius XI, Quadragesima Anno, Condemnation of Socialism (probable)

Pius XII, Munificentissimus Deus, Dogma of the Assumption

Also if you get Dom Cuthbert Butler's The Vatican Council: 1869-1870 (a great book in any case), he has an appendix discussing the views of theologians on what papal pronouncements fit the criteria laid down at the Council. If I remember right he lists about 12 as universally agreed on, and some others like Quanta Cura as doubtful.

[te lucis]

Why? That's the whole damn point of them going!

Gaw-lee, what the hell was I thinking? As for the rest, do you have any 16 year-olds in your family or have you ever parented one?

Not yet, and if my children ever find out what WYD is, it won't be from me.

[royalcello]

Cardinal Pell is one of the Good Guys. One of the best we've got.

Sorry, I can't consider an Australian prelate who endorsed the anti-monarchist side in the 1999 referendum "one of the Good Guys."

See Charles Coulombe's article The Monarchy in Australia for a Catholic perspective more traditional than Cardinal Pell's.

[murphE]

cool.

[fatima]

Thanks for the ping Pyro7480.