Posted on 04/15/2005 8:17:49 PM PDT by Diago
Scalia v. the Pope: Who's Right on the Death Penalty?
Patrick J. Buchanan
February 8, 2002
Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia certainly set the cat down among the pigeons the other day at his alma mater Georgetown University. Challenging the views of the pope and the U.S. bishops, the justice urged any Catholic judge who could not in conscience impose a death sentence to get off the bench.
"[T]he choice for the judge who believes the death penalty to be immoral," said Scalia, "is resignation, rather than simply ignoring duly enacted constitutional laws and sabotaging the death penalty."
Within hours of the story hitting the wires, Wolf Blitzer was on the phone. Could I come over to CNN and explain how the justice, a devout Catholic, could openly defy the teachings of his church?
Delighted. For Scalia had not contradicted or defied any Catholic doctrine. Rather, it is the Holy Father and the bishops who are outside the Catholic mainstream, and at odds with Scripture, tradition and natural law. For an exposition of Catholic doctrine, one should pick up the essay by Cardinal Avery Dulles in the April issue of First Things. As Dulles notes, Catholicism has supported the death penalty for 2000 years:
"In the Old Testament, the Mosaic Law specifies no less than 36 capital offenses calling for execution by stoning, burning, decapitation or strangulation. Included in the list are idolatry, magic, blasphemy, violation of the Sabbath, murder, adultery, bestiality, pederasty and incest. The death penalty was considered especially fitting as a punishment for murder, since in his covenant with Noah, God had laid down the principle, 'Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed. ...'
"In the New Testament, the right of the State to put criminals to death seems to be taken for granted. ... At no point ... does Jesus deny that the State has authority to exact capital punishments. In his debates with the Pharisees, Jesus cites with approval the apparently harsh commandment, 'He who speaks evil of father or mother, let him surely die.' ... When Pilate calls attention to his authority to crucify him, Jesus points out that Pilate's power comes to him from above ? that is to say from God. ... Jesus commends the good thief on the cross next to him, who has admitted that he and his fellow thief are receiving the reward of their deeds."
In Christian tradition, "the Fathers and Doctors of the Church are virtually unanimous in their support for capital punishment," adds Dulles, citing St. Augustine in "The City of God": "[I]t is in no way contrary to the commandment 'Thou shalt not kill' ... for the representatives of the State's authority to put criminals to death. ..." To support the State's right to execute, St. Thomas Aquinas invoked Scripture, tradition and reason alike.
"In the High Middle Ages and early modern times, the Holy See authorized the Inquisition to turn over heretics to the secular arm for execution," writes Dulles. "In the Papal States, the death penalty was imposed for a variety of reasons." Until 1969, Vatican City provided for the death penalty for any who might attempt to assassinate the pope.
As the death penalty has been supported by the Catholic Church since the first Pentecost, whence comes this episcopal Catholic opposition?
"The roots of opposition ... are not in Christianity," continues Dulles. "The mounting opposition to the death penalty in Europe since the Enlightenment has gone hand in hand with a decline in faith in eternal life. In the 19th century, the most consistent supporters of capital punishment were the Christian churches, and its most consistent opponents were groups hostile to the churches. When death came to be understood as the ultimate evil rather than as a stage on the way to eternal life, utilitarian philosophers such as Jeremy Bentham found it easy to dismiss capital punishment as 'useless annihilation.'
"The movement to abolish the death penalty in formerly Christian countries may owe more to secular humanism than to deeper penetration into the gospel. When Pope John Paul declared in 1995 that, 'the direct and voluntary killing of an innocent human being is always gravely immoral,' he was careful to insert the word, 'innocent.'"
As Europe has become less Christian, secular opposition to the death penalty has been imposed from above by European elites.
Thus, Scalia was right about church doctrine, and right about the law. No judge morally opposed to the death penalty should sit in a capital murder case. To do so would be an act of moral arrogance and judicial nullification of democratic rule.
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Catholic Bishops Launch Major Catholic Campaign to End the Use of the Death Penalty
Groundbreaking Zogby Poll Demonstrates Dramatic Rise in Catholic Opposition to Use of the Death Penalty
WASHINGTON (March 21, 2005)The U. S. Conference of Catholic Bishops today launched a Catholic Campaign to End the Use of the Death Penalty. Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, Archbishop of Washington, declared, We cannot teach that killing is wrong by killing. We cannot defend life by taking life. Speaking at the National Press Club on behalf of the U.S. bishops conference, Cardinal McCarrick said, The Catholic campaign will work to change the debate and decisions on the use of the death penalty: building a constituency for life, not death; calling on our lawmakers to lead, not follow; to defend life, not take it away. . . . This cause is not new. Our bishops conference has opposed the death penalty for 25 years. But this campaign is new. It brings greater urgency and unity, increased energy and advocacy, and a renewed call to our people and to our leaders to end the use of the death penalty in our nation.
At the press conference, noted pollster John Zogby reported on an unprecedented survey of Catholic attitudes on the death penalty: We found that support for the use of the death penalty among American Catholics has plunged in the past few years. The intensity of support has declined as well. In past surveys, Catholic support for the death penalty was as high as 68%. In our November survey, we found that less than half of the Catholic adults in our poll (48%) now support the use of the death penalty, while 47% oppose it. The percentage of Catholics who are intensely supportive of the death penalty has been halved, from a high of 40% to 20% in this survey. Zogby also reported that:
* The more often Catholics attend Mass, the less likely they are to support the use of the death penalty.
* The younger Catholics are, the less likely they are to support the death penalty.
* A third of Catholics who once supported the use of the death penalty now oppose it.
Among the major reasons Catholics gave for opposing the use of the death penalty was respect for life. Two of three (63%) Catholics are deeply concerned about what the use of the death penalty does to us as a people and a country, according to the surveys. (The charts used in the presentation are attached to this press release.)
Cardinal McCarrick emphasized the Churchs commitment to victims of violence and their families as a central part of the campaign. Bud Welch, whose daughter Julie Marie was killed in the Oklahoma City bombing, made an impassioned plea: My conviction is simple: More violence is not what Julie would have wanted. More violence will not bring Julie back. More violence only makes our society more violent. The Catholic Campaign to End the Use of the Death Penalty is another way for the Church to say no to more violence and no to our culture of death.
Cardinal McCarrick said the campaign is about justice. . . . The death penalty in our land is deeply flawed. Demonstrating this reality, Kirk Bloodsworth told his story of coming into the Catholic faith on death row: I spent eight years, 11 months and 19 days behind bars before DNA testing proved my innocence. Since 1973, more than 100 people have been exonerated from death row after being cleared of their charges. . . . Every bit of my story exemplifies the problems in the death penalty system. The same systemic flaws that led to my wrongful conviction . . . plague the cases of innocent people in prison and on death row. Cardinal McCarrick said, the use of the death penalty cannot really be mended, it must be ended.
The Catholic Campaign, according to the Cardinal will educate in our parishes and schools, universities and seminaries. We need to share Catholic teaching with courage and clarity, reaching out to those who teach our children, write our textbooks, form our priests, and preach in our pulpits. This is a work of formation and persuasion, not simply proclamation.
The Catholic campaign will act with continued advocacy in the Congress and state legislatures, in our legal briefs and before the courts. . . . This is just a beginning.
The Catholic campaign has a new website www.ccedp.org, which includes a basic brochure, clear explanation of the Churchs teaching, and resources for education and action. It includes the many statements of bishops around the country (e.g., powerful statements just in the past week by Archbishop Chaput of Denver and Bishop Wuerl of Pittsburgh ). It will include lesson plans for Catholic schools and religious education, action alerts, and tools for advocacy.
Cardinal McCarrick pointed out this campaign brings the Church together. Gail Quinn, Executive Director of the Secretariat for Pro Life Activities, welcomed the Catholic Campaign to End the Use of the Death Penalty. Ms. Quinn said, This cause unites our pro life and social justice convictions in defense of human life and dignity. We are called to respect human life in all stages, and in all circumstances. I hope that Catholics will increasingly speak to their belief that the use of the death penalty in this nation must cease. We pledge to be an integral part of carrying out this campaign
Cardinal McCarrick, once a supporter of the death penalty, concluded his statement by saying, Im not a young man. But as a pastor, teacher, and citizen, I hope I will see the day when the nation I love no longer relies on violence to confront violence. I pray I will see the day when we have given up the illusion that we can teach that killing is wrong by killing.
For additional information go to www.ccedp.org.
"Scalia v. the Pope: Who's Right on Death Penalty?"
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Yeah, I agree. Pope John Paul II was a great man and a couragous historical figure, but things like "female altar boys" and distorting the church's two century old teaching on the death penalty, will prevent him from ever being St. JP the Great.
LIFE for the innocent (the unborn)
DEATH for the guilty (convicted killers)
No need for paragraphs of analysis.
"It is really quite simple:
LIFE for the innocent (the unborn)
DEATH for the guilty (convicted killers)
No need for paragraphs of analysis."
Agreed...and that is what the Catholic Church taught for 1998 years. I am sure Pope Ratzinger will straighten this mess out!!!
And, after watching our judicial system starve and dehydrate an innocent woman to death, I firmly oppose the state having the power of life or death over anyone.
I must have missed the Major Campaign the Bishops launched to end the death penalty for the unwanted unborn, the unwanted disabled like Terri...
distorting the church's two century old teaching on the death penalty
Two centuries isn't that long ;) But, did he distort the teaching?
56. This is the context in which to place the problem of the death penalty. On this matter there is a growing tendency, both in the Church and in civil society, to demand that it be applied in a very limited way or even that it be abolished completely. The problem must be viewed in the context of a system of penal justice ever more in line with human dignity and thus, in the end, with God's plan for man and society. The primary purpose of the punishment which society inflicts is "to redress the disorder caused by the offence".46 Public authority must redress the violation of personal and social rights by imposing on the offender an adequate punishment for the crime, as a condition for the offender to regain the exercise of his or her freedom. In this way authority also fulfils the purpose of defending public order and ensuring people's safety, while at the same time offering the offender an incentive and help to change his or her behaviour and be rehabilitated. 47It is clear that, for these purposes to be achieved, the nature and extent of the punishment must be carefully evaluated and decided upon, and ought not go to the extreme of executing the offender except in cases of absolute necessity: in other words, when it would not be possible otherwise to defend society. Today however, as a result of steady improvements in the organization of the penal system, such cases are very rare, if not practically non-existent.
This seems to be, in substance, the same as what St. Thomas says:
An individual man may be considered in two ways: first, in himself; secondly, in relation to something else. If we consider a man in himself, it is unlawful to kill any man, since in every man though he be sinful, we ought to love the nature which God has made, and which is destroyed by slaying him. Nevertheless, as stated above the slaying of a sinner becomes lawful in relation to the common good, which is corrupted by sin. (St. Thomas, Summa Theologiae, II-II q. 64 a. 6)
Since it is unlawful to kill a man considered per se, it would seem that bloodless means are, in fact, more consistent with human dignity when they can achieve the objective of "redress[ing] the disorder caused by the offence" and thereby protecting society. Now, JP II's prudential judgment about the ability of current prison systems to achieve this objective makes no pretension at being doctrine...
Assuming that the guilty party's identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor. (CCC 2267)
But also, at no time in history have murderers had so many rights. A true development in the church doctrine will acknoldge the fact that todays murders have a lot more rights.
DNA testing, trial by a jury of your peers, endless appeals rights....
At no time in history have murderers had such rights!
A true development in the Church's doctrine will acknoledge the fact that while some may have been unjustly excuted hundrerds of years ago when the Church actively promoted the Death Penalty, today murderers are getting their due!!!
You're kidding right? I'm not going to read all that, especially since it's a 3-year-old article that starts the process.
Well, I have no idea when the Amish were invented, but the Catholic Church is 2,000 years old. 3 years is nothing, as we do not discriminate against tradition. (see Chesterton).
I don't have the statistics, but I imagine most people that get the death penalty are unrepentant, did not confess but were convicted. The people who commit murders and confess usually just get prison, am I right?
JPII's prudential conclusion may be doubtful, but his "teaching" is sound. Witness Sr. Helen Prejean who recently wrote an editorial in the NY Times attacking the Pope's stance in Evangelium Vitae, for allowing executions. She then simply invented that JP II had reversed EV in the new CCC (totally false as shown by the quote above)...
You are exactly right.
But even more important is the fact that the immanency of death (brought about by the death penalty) often leads to repentance and death bed conversions. This is one of the traditional reasons the Church approved of the death penalty.
Funny you should mention that, gbcdoj and were discussing that very same thing a few weeks ago, and I lost track of the thread.
I was saying, that this "No Death Penalty" campaign of the Bishops' is because they are secular humanists, that they are elevating the importance of this life above the spiritual, and not directing their attention to what they should be concerned with, saving SOULS.
My reading of Genesis 9 makes it look like a 'must.'
Somewhere I read this exact same argument. If I can find it, I will post it. But to a logical mind, it makes perfect sense. Just as the Catholic Church has always made perfect sense - - until it started reversing itself and calling it a "development of doctrine."
This stuff really does depress me beyond anything I can actually express in an FR post. I'll be back later this weekend, but if you can advance the 2,000 year old teaching a bit in my absence, then God bless you!
Hmmm....
Assuming that the guilty party's identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor. (CCC 2267)
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