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To: PolishSTL
I also know that not all orders are or should be judged by the actions of a few.

Why do speak such pious platitudes and then proceed to point out the failures of one individual as an indictment of the entire order? Do you also feel this way about the Church which Christ founded, since He chose the betrayer Judas as one of the Twelve, or Peter who denied Him three times?

I remember that the Institute of Christ the King are from the Lacrosse diocese (Burke's old diocese and birthplace). In addition to this, they have been hit by the abuse scandals in Wisconsin by their leader's actions ...

Then, you remember incorrectly. I would even venture that you had never heard of the Institute until you read my last post. Would that be a fair and accurate deduction?

I only ask this because the Institute is not FROM the Diocese of La Crosse. The Institute was founded by two French priests in Italy and canonically erected in the African Diocese of Mouila. From Africa and Italy the Institute spread one after the other to France, Germany, Belgium, Switzerland, Austria, United States, Spain, and other countries. Link

Also in this case which you cite, both then-Bishop Burke and the Institute responded quickly:

[With regards to the illegal sex games perpetrated on an unwilling teenage boy]
Fr. Timothy Svea, it should be noted that this incident was taken care of very swiftly. I was still in La Crosse at the time and I heard something was going on with this guy. I don't remember the timeline right now, but Bishop Burke learned of Svea's behavior from the Institute and immediately suspended his faculties. The Institute acted swiftly as well and got him out and he was handed over to a prosecutor in Wood County. This all happened in a matter of months.

This could have been extraordinarily embarrassing to then-Bishop Burke [now Archbishop of St. Louis]. He had closed St. Mary's Church in Wausau and merged the parish with another one in town. It was then purchased by someone really rich who has ties to Tridentine rite supporters and Bishop Burke brought the Institute in to have them minister to those who still desired that Mass. He did this against the wishes of the majority of his presbyterate. The situation was made worse for Bishop Burke when Svea, who was serving as superior, told the Presbyteral Council that he would not, even in case of extreme need, celebrate the Novus Ordo Mass. It could have happened, then, that both the Institute and Bishop Burke would try to cover up the situation to save their skins. But to their credits, they did not do that.

--Thomas A. Szyszkiewicz
Altura, Minnesota - - Source.

My concern is why bring them to St. Louis? There were priest performing Latin mass in St. Louis that were diocesan priests.

Does it make a difference who celebrates Mass?
Is not the same Sacrifice made present for us?
Did you ever attend Mass at St. Agatha's?
Why do you have a concern about it?
Does it affect you in any way?
Do not those who prefer the Latin Mass deserve consideration?

Perhaps, Archbishop Burke wishes to be obedient and abide by the Holy Father's request in Ecclesia Dei where he says:...respect must everywhere be shown for the feelings of all those who are attached to the Latin liturgical tradition, by a wide and generous application of the directives already issued some time ago by the Apostolic See for the use of the Roman Missal according to the typical edition of 1962.

115 posted on 03/02/2005 10:26:58 AM PST by lrslattery ( ...Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: lrslattery
Why do you make assumption and presumptions to attack what I speak and present? I provide you with documents concerning issues that I address because you have constantly requested proof ... so I give it and you spit at it. NO, I defend the Roman Catholic faith and feel that the devil is rampant within it, just as stated at Fatima! Why tell other orders to leave & bring others in? Because you wish to surround yourself with a favorable environment, not necessarily favorable to the people or THE FAITH. Yes, I have heard of the Institute prior to your posting. You are NOT the only one that has access to such knowledge. But, SSPX is here as well and Cardinal Hoyos, another friend of Archbishop Burke's, has not headed the Pontiff's request to reopen discussions with them ... another Pontifical request ignored ... appears to be a pattern. Yet, archdiocesan peoples are attacked with 'The Vatican wants it this way' with regard to anything else that has personal interest/gain for them ... hence, the selective application.
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To: lrslattery
You still have not told me WHO YOU ARE.
I have another concern with what you are posting. Let's discuss TRUTH. Truth is The Lord. The major reason for His attack upon the Pharisees. Yet, we are in the same calamity now with the 'selective' application of Canon Law. Written law that was created and imposed by those that it protects ... very similar to what Jesus was fighting. Also is modified, 1983, by those same individuals to try and shore-up and close loop holes. Now, taking another perspective, we have a newsletter in the St. Louis diocese called The Review. NOTHING concerning St. Stanislaus is allowed in that print without the bishop's permission. Why? He has stated that his word is the only Truth. Back to the infallibility question ... the Archbishop is not infallible. THAT IS OUR TEACHING AND OUR ROMAN CATHOLIC BELIEF.
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