LAST OF CHILDREN WHO CLAIMED TO SEE VIRGIN MARY DIES AT 97

Associated Press ^ | 13 Feb 2005 | Editors

[Gerish]

I would hope people would not focus so much on the third secret itself, but the message of Fatima in general. I think Cardinal Ratzinger said it best on 10/13/96 at a Mass at the Cova da Iria:

"To all the curious I would say I am certain that the Virgin Mary does not engage in sensationalism. She does not create fear. She does not present apocalytic visions, but guides people to her Son. And this is what is essential."

He is also quoted as saying on a Catholic Radio interview that "Our Lady did not appear to the Fatima children to create sensation. Mary's purpose is, through these simple children, to call the world back to simplicity, that is, to the essentials: conversion, prayer and the sacraments."

God Bless Sr. Maria Lucia!

[wideawake]

I actually thought that the 3rd secret was known to the church.

It was revealed several years ago.

The conspiracy-minded say that (1) the Church never discovered the third secret and Sr. Lucia took it to her grave because the evil men who run the Church never let her tell it or (2) that the Church knows it, but the evil men who run the Church have kept it hidden and that in either case, the divulging of the secret a few years ago by the Vatican was a fabrication.

Those who are swelled by their spiritual pride into believing their own fantasies will never be satisfied.

I expect some Dan Brownesque charlatan to make some quick bucks off this situation in the near future.

[Veto!]

Now we may find out. I was under the impression that no one would speak until Sister Lucia died.

[KC_Conspirator]

I heard rumors that the 3rd secret is that there will be corruption in the Church, testing its faith and foundation, or something to that extent.

[wideawake]

Well the third secret was revealed, so there's no need to rely on rumors. It speaks of the Church being beset by enemies within and without.

[KC_Conspirator]

I just did a search on it and it sounds exactly like you put it.

[thor76]

"She does not present apocalytic visions"

Based upon that, we should all ignore what she said at Fatima........and to Lucia post 1917........as well as what she said at Lourdes, LaSallette, Akita, Betania......

She was sent by God to us with warnings - which have, by and large been ignored by the clergy. Woe unto them!

[Smartass]

THANKS FOR     THE PING!

[Dajjal]

I actually thought that the 3rd secret was known to the church.

Handwriting Analysis of the Alleged "Third Secret":
http://www.tldm.org/news/lucys_writing.htm

It's from a Leukenite website, but in this instance, I think they're correct.

[Salvation]

Sister Lucia, last remaining witness of Fatima apparitions, dies at 97

SISTER LUCIA RIP

LAST OF CHILDREN WHO CLAIMED TO SEE VIRGIN MARY DIES AT 97

Last child who claimed to see "Virgin Mary" dies

[Dajjal]

Virgin Mary Child Dies (Lucia of Fatima)

[Salvation]

Thanks, I missed that one.

[Dajjal]

I found another:

Mourning for Fatima seer (Portugal declares day of mourning)

[Dajjal]

Sorry, just saw your post there when I refreshed!

[Robert Drobot]

Sister Maria Lucia of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart

It is now uniformly being reported that Sister Lucia took the name "Sister Maria Lucia of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart"

The Vatican publication Zenit News Agency refers to Sister Lucia as "Sister Maria Lucia of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart"

In their story "Fatima's Last Visionary Dies" Catholic Online reports in part:

On Oct. 24, 1925, she entered the Institute of the Sisters of St. Dorothy and at the same time was admitted as a postulant in the congregation's convent in Tuy, Spain, near the Portuguese border. She made her first vows on Oct. 3, 1928, and her perpetual vows on Oct. 3, 1934, receiving the name Sister Mary of the Sorrowful Mother.

She returned to Portugal in 1946 and two years later entered the Carmelite convent of St. Teresa in Coimbra, where she made her profession as a Discalced Carmelite on May 31, 1949, taking the name Sister Maria Lucia of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart.

What Sister Lucy has said about the Third Secret is worth repeating. There are consistent references to Churchmen "being fooled by false doctrine;" to a "diabolical disorientation" afflicting "so many persons who occupy places of responsibility" in the Church; to "priests and consecrated souls" who "are so deceived and misled" because "the devil has succeeded in infiltrating evil under cover of good . . . leading into error and deceiving souls having a heavy responsibility through the place which they occupy . . . They are blind men guiding other blind men," and so on.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Thank you Robert.

[Robert Drobot]

Actually, it was Mark in the Old South who asked me to clarify the name Sister Lucia took as a Discalced Carmelite. When I did my initial search, the name "Sister Maria of the Immaculate Heart of Mary" came up. The search I did yesterday (using the journalistic two source rule) came up with "Sister Maria of the Immaculate Heart of Mary".

Thanks for the post, Debbie.

[Robert Drobot]

"Sister Maria [Lucia of Jesus] of [and] the Immaculate Heart of Mary".....I think the thing about teaching an old dog new tricks comes into play here.

Sister Lucia has always been "Sister Lucia" to me. I guess if I find myself writing her name often enough, "Sister Maria Lucia of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart" will find it's way into my lexicon.